Message from @Meiglos
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well animism existed for a really long time
shamanism too
I don't know if we can prove it but I bet belief in spirits in nature exists as far back as communication does
the bird knows when it rains, the worms will rise to the surface for easy feeding.........do the birds have a rain god.......is that a religion?
birds lack a concept of belief
more like pattern recognition
"The remains of one of the earliest anatomically modern humans to be cremated was buried near Lake Mungo." -40,000 BCE
I disagree, the bids belivie, that when it rains, there will be worms
so does belief = religion?
thats more my question
Thats biological instinct not belief
is the rain " superhuman controlling power"
then I'd say it's any belief in the supernatural
that's also shared amongst a group
I think the bides belive it is
*birds
so is religion an instinct run a mock?
I think the most basic reason to have religion (in an evolutionary sense) is in order to not kill yourself because we're all gonna die anyway
well 'religion' in the more modern sense..........are man made instutions
I think it's to help facilitate meaning in order to make life worthwhile
not even to make it worthwhile, but to see cause and effect in nature
the trees grow because the tree gods willed them to
or perhaps each tree is a lesser spirit under the guidance of a forest god
either way lol
i think very strong beliefs of u-understood knowledge is basically religion, which predates humans.......to answer your question....
*un-
misunderstood?
un-understood
not understood
gotcha
I don't think you can say religion exists if people can't communicate that religion to each other, and that would apply to animals
The bids know nothing of precipitation, evaporation, boiling tempature......
and religion does require worship
*birds
there's a difference between religion and superstition
only that rain = worms
but do the birds actively worship a rain god in hopes he will grant them a blessing?
do the birds not pray for rain?
yes but they don't "think" about that cause and effect, their instincts just bring them in the direction of the worms because they evolved to doso
i suspect they perfom 'rituals' so that they find the lands in which there is rain....