Message from @Meiglos
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or maybe they just learned to associate the rain with there being more worms
Im going to say the bird's parents were taught how to follow rains....
yeah and there is no need for belief for that to be true
there is no evidence that birds teach each other things
bird parents do not teach a fledgling to fly
wait don't hunting dogs teach their young how to hunt?
& due to a lack of a language to properly literate the conecpt, it isconcived as a religious rule.........not so much we do this because there are worms, but because we do this because my ancestors did it.....
Birds dont have a concept of behavior
they know parents, self, children, and others
knowledge is not passed down
it is through the flock
but the flock does not teach
the flock is there for instinctual reasons
ofc not the same way we pass down
ya, i see religion in that
I dunno, maybe there are natural learned behaviors but where does religion come into play what so ever?
they are performing rituals they dont understand for a greater good
religion requires belief in a god or gods, there is no way to prove that birds believe in a god or gods, let alone if they can even conceptualize what a god is
Well no, they are learning behaviors because they see what works, and the greatest good to them is what ever keeps them alive
eric your starting to get it
I didn't say that
i did
I don't follow that logic
religion = prrof of concept?
?
belief in a greatest good could be considered religion
but that requires belief
but you can't even say that there is belief
pna get it!
so what do you think, am i crazy.???
im not talking about birds
anyways, great convo guys, thanks for entertaining me 😃
with people sure, but with instinctive animals no way
again, religion and belief are purly human conceptions
JPB?
Heirichys are present in lobsters?
but heirarchies aren't beliefs
heirarchies are social status
and social species have been around for millenia
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