Message from @Buelli

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2020-01-02 21:43:36 UTC  

You're trans med? @sydtko

2020-01-02 21:44:41 UTC  

Probably... if the meaning is I don't think people should be messing with their hormones without dysphoria...
Granted, underlying that is a liberal principle... so, there's discovery and science to be done of people that are willing to be... what are effectively scientific frontiersmen

2020-01-02 21:45:13 UTC  

Why not?

2020-01-02 21:45:35 UTC  

Sort of depends on which value or mindset/disposition I am in when I think about it...
A capitalist mindset might say this has negative ramifications on people's productivity
A scientist is like... "HELL YEA" more inductions

2020-01-02 21:45:41 UTC  

Why not what?

2020-01-02 21:46:32 UTC  

Also... when it comes to uh... something that parallels HRT is the garage biohackers with CRISPR. While there's massive arguments for regulating it... I also think you should allow people to do it

2020-01-02 21:47:26 UTC  

@Deleted User You need to clarify your question if you want a response though. "Why not..." [what] ? I've lost the referent / pronoun here

2020-01-02 21:48:42 UTC  

Why shouldn't they change their hormones

2020-01-02 21:49:02 UTC  

And I'm not sure how hormones with the informed consent model is comparable to DIY Crispr

2020-01-02 21:49:42 UTC  

There's risk associated with it or the medical term would be one sec...
reason not prescribe stuff

2020-01-02 21:51:05 UTC  

Because, in the end, you're taking on what is some amount of risk to alter your body for a better or different quality of life

2020-01-02 21:51:27 UTC  

And you think people shouldn't be able to do that?

2020-01-02 21:53:15 UTC  

This goes back to which disposition you ask me from... if it's paid by the state and then winds up having negative results on productivity or human capital, no (capitalist mindset)
However, from a science perspective, you actually have to do the inductions to know the above

2020-01-02 21:53:27 UTC  

To know if something is going to be highly detrimental or not

2020-01-02 21:53:42 UTC  

I think based on what I know about transitioning... it seems generally benign or neutral

2020-01-02 21:54:13 UTC  

I'm actually really triggered that I can't find the specific word for "reason not to prescribe meds"... it's a co- prefix word

2020-01-02 21:54:56 UTC  

The meaning of the word is like... opioids. Doctors don't give you them unless you have a severe pain problem, because opioids are relatively dangerous and you're taking on risk

2020-01-02 21:55:38 UTC  

Contraindications

2020-01-02 21:56:09 UTC  

just wondering do you only have those two mindsets, capitalist and scientific

2020-01-02 21:56:44 UTC  

I don't believe I only have two, I appeal to these two the most... the rest didn't have relevance

2020-01-02 21:56:58 UTC  

issues must be pretty simple if u only call on 2

2020-01-02 21:57:13 UTC  

I mean... I meme hardcore on people as a trivialist and with Walt Whitman's quote
"Very well, I contradict myself... I am massive, I am many"

2020-01-02 21:57:33 UTC  

@sydtko I'm not transmedicalist lmfao

2020-01-02 21:57:35 UTC  

Yes, I am a simpleton and the dumbest man alive

2020-01-02 21:57:46 UTC  

I'm saying that we should require therapy and a formal diagnosis before hormones

2020-01-02 21:57:50 UTC  

and probably a higher age limit

2020-01-02 21:57:51 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi that's what you think <:Smug:643129431434461194>

2020-01-02 21:58:03 UTC  

@Deleted User I think the Netherlands should raise it to 14, everywhere else lower it to 14

2020-01-02 21:58:05 UTC  

based on this data

2020-01-02 21:58:07 UTC  

I'm pretty sure... that's the tenets of transmedicalism

2020-01-02 21:58:13 UTC  

literally no

2020-01-02 21:58:14 UTC  

lmfao

2020-01-02 21:58:17 UTC  

wot

2020-01-02 21:58:23 UTC  

```Transmedicalism is a term for a wide range of beliefs in the transgender community that are critical of transgender people who haven't medically transitioned and/or don't experience major dysphoria. Many transmedicalists (or "transmeds" for short) focus on gatekeeping.

```

2020-01-02 21:58:30 UTC  

I don't care if you do or don't transition

2020-01-02 21:58:31 UTC  

"... a formal diagnosis" probably means GD, yes?

2020-01-02 21:58:58 UTC  

**medically transitioned and/or don't experience major dysphoria.** is roughly equivalent to "... a formal diagnosis" ?

2020-01-02 21:59:03 UTC  

Am I mistaken?

2020-01-02 21:59:52 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi it's less then 50 at age 14?

2020-01-02 22:00:00 UTC  

Or before?

2020-01-02 22:01:12 UTC  

I've sort of conflated truscum, transmed with each other...
And it does seem to be a normal position... among normies... (but I could be mistaken)
If you're not undergoing HRT or have dysphoria, they probably assume you're cis