Should welfare, social work, food aid, housing really be left to undemocratic NGO's instead of state and municipalities? I simply think that would the money, which is essentially like tax money, be used by public sector, instead of third sector, it would be spent better.

they are under state good sir

ray is just way of sharing the control smaller autonomoys patches

giving what ? 250 million euros around the place where largest yearly donation to single entity (y-säätiö in this case what gives housing and "first aid" to homeless and thrown out people) is mere 5 million or so

imagine the workhours at "large house" when they would be required to vote about that shit

these NGO's are private organizations, they might report how they spend their money to the state, but that does not make them "under state"

somethings are just easier to solve when made in to corporate enviroment

well yes they are not under state.. if their tax or other stuff fails they dont get single penny

so they really do have incentive to spend it to good

and not just on their own "salaries"

its under pretty big microscope

some organizations have denied the money

just cause how much work it causes for them

and rays money are nothing like "tax" money

they take their salaries,equipment cost,necesary running costs

and rest goes to charity like that

and every single organization can get it if they aply for it

sure it would be fun to watch if state just whipped couple billion euros and shared them to org

and did the "out of thin air" money magic every time

well sure, you might have convinced me that the money goes to "good use", but I still dont get why they need to be private charities, instead of state and municipalities. We have welfare state where the state provides housing, welfare, medical help and social work, would it not simply be more efficient to do everything under the welfare state, instead of splitting it to smaller charities?

world just does not sadly work like that

Alko, which is another monopoly, returns all profit to the state

Ray could simply do the same

im not so sure about this but giving some power to "RAY" to choose private org

might be "legal loophole" for state to support those groups

as state cant directly support private organization by default here

(i might be wrong on that one i need to check it)

Alko is dying business model anyway

if you want boring night read https://cms.veikkaus.fi/site/binaries/content/assets/dokumentit/vuosikertomus/ray/ray_vastuu_vuosiraportti_2016.pdf theres the yearly report (it actualy was quite hidden)

its long read so yeah

32th page startes the interesting stuff

also doing everything undert welfare state is quite bad thing

moneywise at least

small organizations dont require nearly as much money as "trained professionals at offices"

and equality wise more organizations = more people to decide how the money is to be spent == less chance for corruption ?

well lesser € ammount goes to corruption .. technicaly more chance for corruption if left unchecked

but yeah i understand very well what you mean

and it would be "optimal world"

Money just does not work that way sadly in real world :/

nor does society as whole

there is always some jealous fucker ruining things