Message from @Tervy
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why not return the money to government, instead of let the RAY local bosses choose random "charities" to donate to
and on side gather money from those who enjoy some gamble time to time
its actualy damn large list where the RAYs money go
they dont really choose it
gov.does
they give gov list > gov gives back a list >they choose from that iirc
you worked for RAY?
I have friend working for them, he defends the system just as fervently
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just speaking from knowledge (used to work at town hall and saw the papers more than once from local rays work)
just that the list of places the money goes is like 2-3 pages long
and the ammounts are relatively small to each group
usualy the Blind,invalids and mental ilness help gets most of it
sure there are places where id love to cut the moneyflow too
(SPR,politicaly 1 sided corporations,church stuyff,etc etc etc)
on that church stuff im not really sure
even tho its forced on many people it still helps fuck ton of people by food-aid and such
and the food-aid lines are growing longer and longer each year
also those who get the money need to report to Goverment where and how every single cent was used
ammount of checked corporations is around 800 per year
Should welfare, social work, food aid, housing really be left to undemocratic NGO's instead of state and municipalities? I simply think that would the money, which is essentially like tax money, be used by public sector, instead of third sector, it would be spent better.
they are under state good sir
ray is just way of sharing the control smaller autonomoys patches
giving what ? 250 million euros around the place where largest yearly donation to single entity (y-säätiö in this case what gives housing and "first aid" to homeless and thrown out people) is mere 5 million or so
imagine the workhours at "large house" when they would be required to vote about that shit
these NGO's are private organizations, they might report how they spend their money to the state, but that does not make them "under state"
somethings are just easier to solve when made in to corporate enviroment
well yes they are not under state.. if their tax or other stuff fails they dont get single penny
so they really do have incentive to spend it to good
and not just on their own "salaries"
its under pretty big microscope
some organizations have denied the money
just cause how much work it causes for them
and rays money are nothing like "tax" money
they take their salaries,equipment cost,necesary running costs
and rest goes to charity like that
and every single organization can get it if they aply for it
sure it would be fun to watch if state just whipped couple billion euros and shared them to org