Message from Jones Malone in tradworker #tradworker
Gibs isnt socialism
Massive government, massive taxation, massive welfare state
Okay, how would you define socialism
I'm not trying to argue in a hostile way, I want to know what you mean by socialist
Socialism is the state working for the people to provide them the basic needs they have. It's the people working together towards a common good. Hitler said "I do not ask for the rich to give to the poor. I ask for the German to give to his fellow German."
And nah you're good man. You can ask questions
"providing basic needs" such as?
The problem with capitalism is that it promotes a self serving and ultimately self destructive belief system.
Basic needs such as power, water, social safety nets, healthcare, etc.
That's welfare, though
Which isn't inherently gibs.
Of course the social safety nets in our country have been exploited and abused. This is intentional by the system
But that doesn't mean they are inherently flawed
Welfare itself isn't a dirty word
Under capitalism, the only way to get rich is by giving people products and services they want. Under socialism, you can be an asshole and the government will still subsidize you
You can be a complete leech in capitalism and become rich
What do the infinite number of traders, bankers, and brokers really do for our people?
National Socialism also combines with cultural reforms to promote the value of hard work and contributing to society
Thats why those two are so important together
Of course socialism without the National promotes leeches because they don't care who they are stealing from
Well, I have a 1.3m loan from a bank. I used it to buy a 20 unit apartment complex. I'm providing housing for 20 people, they voluntarily give me money each month, I voluntarily pay the bank interest, and I still make a profit. Everyone wins
But that's not what I asked. I didn't ask what a landlord did
We wouldn't have so many banks and they wouldn't be nearly this large, if not for the federal reserve, which was created by the government
Are you charging a fair price, or exploiting them?
Usury needs to be banned
A fair price is whatever someone is willing to pay
The Church considered Usury to be sinful for centuries. It's making money from nothing
And they let Jews become Bankers and here we are. Banning usury was a mistake. But that's another issue
Desperate people are willing to pay more, that doesn't mean it's right to charge someone extra when they're vulnerable and can't say no
They let the Jews exist in their societies as an internal clique. Thats the mistake. Not banning usury lol
What do you mean by desperate? If the rent is too high, they can move to a less nice apartment
Banning usury would have worked if they banned it for everyone, not just Christians
Ok. So now you and the other slum lords get together. And decide this is the minimum price you will charge
Moving isn't always feasible
Also socialism isn't communism. You are allowed property, the right to own your own business, to profit, etc.
Sometimes people have no other option