Message from @Wally

Discord ID: 353968785113350146


2017-09-03 18:11:55 UTC  

I mean a movement comparable to Asatru but Roman

2017-09-03 18:11:58 UTC  

The pagan gods were never considered real or physical beings that lived by anyone.

2017-09-03 18:12:20 UTC  

They were archetypal. Embodiments only. Never worshipped in the Christian sense.

2017-09-03 18:13:48 UTC  

Oral tradition by and large. Not meant literally which separates Christian views a lot.

2017-09-03 18:14:38 UTC  

Like I said I still go to church

2017-09-03 18:16:33 UTC  

but when you go to church, you are going to hear cucked things

2017-09-03 18:16:52 UTC  

There is no going around it

2017-09-03 18:17:21 UTC  

and I'm being sicere about this

2017-09-03 18:17:39 UTC  

No Egyptian thought Ma'at was actually some female deity that lived at some point. They knew "she" just sat as a figurehead of the concept of order.

2017-09-03 18:17:42 UTC  

Sometimes, that's why I like Baptist services, it's just frankly not a cucked version of Christianity so hard. They always talk about that lovey dovey shit and let Jesus into your heart and you're saved is all blasphemy and creates false converts.

2017-09-03 18:18:26 UTC  

Southern Baptist yeah is usually harsher.

2017-09-03 18:18:30 UTC  

good point Dustin

2017-09-03 18:19:11 UTC  

Orthodoxy is usually very uncucked also. But some organizations within it obviously are more so than others. The idea of ethno-phyletism being heresy is wrong imo.

2017-09-03 18:19:17 UTC  

It was political.

2017-09-03 18:19:26 UTC  

Not from the Spirit.

2017-09-03 18:23:17 UTC  

Some white nationalists are really against christianity and I think it is a mistake

2017-09-03 18:23:42 UTC  

We all have to work together

2017-09-03 18:24:00 UTC  

One of the worst mistakes because look at our enemy. What do they hate more than anything? Christ. Any Christian moral principle.

2017-09-03 18:24:48 UTC  

They could give a shit less about any folk religion which is a word I use loosely because paganism is not even a real religion in the way Hegelian philosophy is not a real religion.

2017-09-03 18:25:07 UTC  

that is one point of view

2017-09-03 18:25:34 UTC  

I like what Jason said in his video

2017-09-03 18:25:55 UTC  

Paganism is essentially a gathering of previously not gathered archetypal, poetic constructs that seek to explain the world around us

2017-09-03 18:26:17 UTC  

No one literally worships the Sun.

2017-09-03 18:26:24 UTC  

We revere what it represents.

2017-09-03 18:26:39 UTC  

So we revere Baldur and Mithra.

2017-09-03 18:26:39 UTC  

it might be true

2017-09-03 18:26:51 UTC  

Apollo.

2017-09-03 18:27:14 UTC  

Sol Invictus and Christ enter into the God-man idea. Where the archetype meets flesh.

2017-09-03 18:27:44 UTC  

This is where worship is defined. Where religion and doctrine enter in.

2017-09-03 18:31:42 UTC  

Like I said I like both, I go to church and if there is an asatru event I go there too

2017-09-03 18:32:27 UTC  

and I don't really want to argue about it

2017-09-03 18:33:37 UTC  

Church is part of our culture and heritage

2017-09-03 18:34:43 UTC  

and Asatru is part of our ancestry

2017-09-03 18:45:23 UTC  

I'm not even saying it's wrong to be Asatru lol

2017-09-03 18:46:29 UTC  

I'm just saying it was never considered a religion by our ancestors. They didn't literally believe in Thor as a physical person. Or Loki. They were personified ideas and causes and forces and concepts.

2017-09-03 18:47:36 UTC  

And there was never a doctrine or theology. Just oral tradition and local customs. They didn't have a name even for their assembled "pantheon". Dr. Johnson's podcast on this is great.

2017-09-03 18:48:52 UTC  

I think that's a reasonable view, and ties into my love of Traditional Catholicism with our reverence for our ancestors (Saints)

2017-09-03 18:49:35 UTC  

and I'm not saying everything is cucked about christianity

2017-09-03 18:50:35 UTC  

...but we as white nationalist should be aware of some things about it....

2017-09-03 18:51:10 UTC  

for sure a lot is good in christianity...

2017-09-03 18:52:21 UTC  

and I go to church every week...it was a good service today