Message from @John Mosby
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I think you're missing my point. I'm not talking about now, though I think that's a bad idea too. This is supposing when we don't have to fight for our existence, when it's already secured. Having bastard children when there's no war to be fought seems like a terrible idea
>If they're forced to struggle on their own as a result of their actions I think you'll find it happening much less than if they're supported to similar extents by the state as if they had a husband
It's not like white societies have ever been free of bastards or thots. It's not like instating Lebensborn was Hitler telling all German women to whore as much as possible. I feel that's a pretty libertarian way of looking at things. It's more likely the program would make sure white child will grow up to be a better citizen having a happy childhood free of want, rather than whores thinking that's TWP party's big ole thumbs up to jump on the dick carousel. If you think whores whore just because government let's them, it's not true, they're just being more open about it, but whores will always whore.
If you need bodies, that's one thing, but normally theres no reason for that
Once we have the society we want, then absolutely it should be discouraged and stigmatized
I think if you are to have bastard children from the % of women who will whore about regardless, they should be put up for adoption as the mother is probably less fit to raise them than some infertile couple
Rather than incentivize it by supporting the mother and child
Throw THOTs into Convents...problem solved.
eh people do make mistakes
They do, yes, but by there not being consequences others are less likely to learn from their mistakes
and if a couple of teenagers do get knocked up, I'd much rather they be able to have and raise the child rather than it ruining their lives like it does now
I'd say in such a situation there should be pressure to get married as there was before
If they do, whatever
@Arcturus How do you institutionalize shotgun weddings?
absolutely yes, but they'll still need support
I'm not really sure. I think social shame would do much of the work as it did in the past
Yeah, that's just it, the program is for state institutions pretty much. You can start some extra governmental fascist version of Mao's Cultural Revolution and cane whores on the street,.
Might work.
We still need to support them. The child is an innocent
Perhaps just penalize both of the parents if they do not, I dunno. Child support as it is now isn't such a bad idea in theory.
@Vice Commander Hunt
I am a Christian before I am a National Socialist. If we throw out morality to "preserve" anything, then it isn't worth it. Christ and the Saints lead my thoughts, not Rockwell (I am not a big fan of Rockwell, anyway, tbh...I much preferred Stoner and the NSRP).
Have the father pay the state for the cost he put on society by supporting the mother or something, don't give benefits to the mother so she and her family has to support the child
Well National Socialism is my faith and ideology so I look at things through those lenses, what is most beneficial for our race.
If they get married, have neither of those happen, perhaps give support to the new parents
Right outside of Orwells old home.
There's a case to be made that disincentivizing that would be most beneficial to our race by having healthier people growing in it
>Have the father pay the state for the cost he put on society by supporting the mother or something
Uh...I dunno how to put this...we already have it...pretty much
Really tells you something about his books, he was right.
I know. That's why I said the current child support laws aren't bad in theory
@John Mosby is war ever lawful?
@Vice Commander Hunt
Of course...
What does war have to do with it, though?
So your suggestion is incentivizing marriage by making so that you don't have to pay for child support in marriage? How's that working, right now? @Arcturus
@John Mosby It has a fresh flag anyway
@Kombat-Unit don't have to pay for child support plus the woman wouldn't have to support the child herself. If there's no welfare for the mom, she's going to try a lot harder to make it work.
Now there's not as much drive as she'll be supported either way
It's a shame Vlams Blook moderated the way they did
I'd bet the father would try harder too if his kid might literally be starving.
That's libertarian as fuck.
yeah we need to support parents above all else
Natural eugenics, suppose it's libertarian in a way