Message from Overman in tradworker #tradworker
Maybe in an ironic fashion, the polarization over Trump's election actually is shifting the Overton window.
Not quite enough yet, but still
I think it's all for the win as long as the leadership don't waffle on the principles and don't lose sight of the goals.
Lots of opportunities.
Well, here on the streets you can easily get people to agree Hitler should have won (If you ask people if 'we' should have won, there's no way anyone will say "no" if they're not straight up red) but then have reservation towards NRM because we're tight with Swedes.
It's all dependent on how much nuance is allowed for a label or a set of views.
USA affords none for us, as I stated before, but that may be changing.
I mean look at the Spencer incident
MFW fucking Posobiec links NRM
I'm not too fond of the concept of a overton window
It's real and has merit but it debatably doesn't matter
let me finish ffs
I am lol
it's text you can't be talked over
the original overton window is bullshit
it's not about pushing boundaries in political discourse
it's simply a matter of what you can get away with (without being ostracised, beaten up or jailed)
and as it stands, you can't get away with any sort of racism or nazism in the USA
so no, the window hasn't moved
Are we allowed to chat yet?
It's impossible to give a worldwide standard for changing political discourse. Overton window is bullshit. It's a zero sum game, either you get away with it or you don't, there isn't, shouldn't and can't be a standard for it, if you're smart, you recognize it.
For example, MP can survive hanging out with us, while posting even friatider will get you fired in Sweden: http://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finns_party_mp_poses_with_national_socialists_at_memorial/8084384
To state that the window of acceptable discourse in public hasn't changed in the past couple years is absurd.
I've literally got multiple high school classmates liking my fashy social media posts and lamenting the refugee crisis, black crime, and Jewish bankers.
But then again, you couldn't directly link to our stuff. You have to maintain this air of plausable deniability
overton window states that public discourse changes when people start discussing increasingly extreme subjects
what happened in the US is simply a change of circumstances and issues perceived by the people
it didn't happen by gradually hammering anti-immigration talks on their ears
I was just defining it broadly by what is socially acceptable to talk about at least without being blanket-banned from the media/most people
maybe normies are a good frame of reference to use
You're defining it more specifically, I'm not
"ban the muslims," "end the fed," "America First," "nationalism against globalism,"... This shit wasn't allowed in public spaces a few years back.
but again what we've talked earlier makes more sense
I remember this case a True Finn representative from Vaasa was hanging out in this one skin joint, and leftist got butthurt, but he didn't get in trouble. But then another representative got a warning for posting ethnic hatefacts on FB.
people go with what is trending and with the stronger horse