Message from @Klutch

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2017-11-04 00:25:54 UTC  

Also socialism isn't communism. You are allowed property, the right to own your own business, to profit, etc.

2017-11-04 00:26:02 UTC  

Sometimes people have no other option

2017-11-04 00:26:09 UTC  

It's just that you can't directly spread poison to your countrymen or exploit them

2017-11-04 00:26:33 UTC  

I appreciate being called a slum lord. Lol.

Okay, so me and 4 other landlords decide to all raise our rents. So an entrepreneur comes along, sees a demand for affordable housing, buys/builds apartments and charges lower rent. Me and the other "greedy" landlords lose all our tenants and we're out of business

2017-11-04 00:26:54 UTC  

Okay. So now you collude with the local government to block his permit to build

2017-11-04 00:27:08 UTC  

These are things that have actually happened

2017-11-04 00:27:12 UTC  

I agree, government shouldn't have that power

2017-11-04 00:27:15 UTC  

I'm not trolling

2017-11-04 00:27:19 UTC  

I know you're not

2017-11-04 00:27:33 UTC  

Okay so who should decide who builds where

2017-11-04 00:27:35 UTC  

If we remove form government the power to block business and grant monopolies then that problem won't arise

2017-11-04 00:28:01 UTC  

Okay so you and the other local landlords present a higher bid than the entrepeneur can afford on the land to build

2017-11-04 00:28:10 UTC  

If you own land, you should be able to do whatever you want with it, with the exception of any covenants you've entered into. For example, if I buy a home in an explicitly all white/Anglo neighborhood, I can't sell my home to any non whites

2017-11-04 00:28:22 UTC  

All of that is voluntary and doesn't require government force

2017-11-04 00:28:42 UTC  

A capitalist society promotes exploitation and will always end up where we are now.

2017-11-04 00:28:45 UTC  

The problem is that without a strong central force acting for the good of the people, profit will motivate and reign supreme

2017-11-04 00:29:09 UTC  

Why are third worlders imported in mass to our countries for cheap labor? to maximize profit.

2017-11-04 00:29:15 UTC  

Capitalism is slow boil communism, to catch the frog unaware

2017-11-04 00:29:19 UTC  

You don't make a profit without giving people something they want

2017-11-04 00:29:29 UTC  

Why aren't the people of Appalachia provided the services they need? Its not profitable

2017-11-04 00:29:43 UTC  

Because they're white and they provide for themselves

2017-11-04 00:29:44 UTC  

The problem is that there are wants, and there are needs.

2017-11-04 00:30:03 UTC  

They provide for themselves. But they can't build an entire power grid or water system my man

2017-11-04 00:30:07 UTC  

But the people in Appalachia can just move at any time! Maybe to a big city center

2017-11-04 00:30:24 UTC  

"a luxury once enjoyed brclmrd a necessity" internet I'd now a necessity. So is air conditioning. A cell phone, etc

2017-11-04 00:30:24 UTC  

That requires capital in this system. Something these people don't have.

2017-11-04 00:30:43 UTC  

Hadrian, lots of people did this to work in factories, etc

2017-11-04 00:30:52 UTC  

Alot of them were forced by the way

2017-11-04 00:30:58 UTC  

I was actually reading about this the other day.

2017-11-04 00:31:23 UTC  

The business owners who needed labor would collude with local government and other land owners to force out farmers and the like.

2017-11-04 00:31:36 UTC  

So they'd eventually move into cities for work

2017-11-04 00:31:49 UTC  

The rural farmers and peasants pre industrial age were infinitely more wealthy than the factory workers

2017-11-04 00:32:14 UTC  

I agree, government is evil ;)

2017-11-04 00:32:22 UTC  

And now their children pay $80,000 a year to rent a broom closet

2017-11-04 00:32:45 UTC  

Okay so lets remove the government from this situation

2017-11-04 00:32:58 UTC  

The wealthy now hire boys with guns to forcefully move these people

2017-11-04 00:33:32 UTC  

Which should be fought against. And local thugs are a lot easier to fight against than the federal government

2017-11-04 00:33:54 UTC  

Without the safe guards of a central government what prevents the wealthy from monopolizing force

2017-11-04 00:34:18 UTC  

Recreational McNukes

2017-11-04 00:34:19 UTC  

Feudalism lacked alot of these safe guards, and as a result the peasantry were directly under the whims of the local wealthy such as nobles.

2017-11-04 00:34:46 UTC  

"We need some manpower for this war. Get the fuck off your farm and come with us. Or we kill you and seize your assets"