Message from @Jones Malone
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There are different types of socialism. There's is communist. Ours is economic Third Position
You're pointing towards one aspect of the Venuzuelian economy and ignoring others
Alberta is a fairly capiatalistic province of Canada that faced pretty high unemployment during this time as well because their local economy was built on oil
I agree
Meaning
Building your society around one product is risky
What happens when oil prices fall, is resources leave oil and will go to more profitable ventures
Except that's not what's happening
because oil companies are cock blocking every attempt at alternative energies they can
Instead we are investing more and more money for less and less return in more dangerous methods of extracting oil
By what mechanism are they preventing other sources of energy
Cockblocking any legislation in government that would fund or allow grants for companies seeking to research altnerative energy, copy righting methods and other means of R&D into these energies. Invesiting millions into ads and public relations to scare us off from the idea of nuclear energy, electric cars, etc.
And again we see government is the roadblock
Government is also the middleman from them just doing these things themselves
Would you agree that a large portion of welfare recipients in America are parasites
No
Meaning they are able and capable of working but they don't because why bother
A small portion
Most welfare recipients are non white. They aren't parasites?
Many lifers exist in welfare because they hit a road block. Where its more profitable to stay at a certain income level while receiving welfare, than to receive a dollar or two raise in pay, but lose the welfare
Yes, that's the welfare cliff
And this culture we have promotes pleasure and the individual needs above collective good. When we implement cultural changes to promote community and family, people won't want to be parasites
But it's false to compare this to national socialism
It creates a perverse incentive to not work longer hours & avoid pay raises
If we eliminate welfare, people won't have the possibility to be parasites
Either be productive or starve. If you are a legitimate victim, then private charity can fill in. It's not moral if I'm forced to give money at the point of a gun
In a high trust society like we want, we can have nice things like welfare and universal health care
You don't need universal healthcare to have healthcare
Along the lines of what Hadrian is saying. You're focusing on the socialism under our current low trust broken system, while ignoring the results of socialism under a high trust nationalistic system
Everything government currently provides was once provided by private individuals
Or not provided in any form
I agree that any system is going to work better with whites
And people lived for 35 miserable years
It's not just about being under whites
Libya worked wonderfully
Before (((They))) killed Ghaddafi
Hadrian, because we had a much poorer understanding of modern medicine, not because a lack of government. Everyone died young
What motivated people to improve healhcare. Because it was not primarily profit
It was out of a sense of common good and duty to ones people
Not just medicine. Local crop failures led to mass starvation, among other things