A child born out of wedlock is a travesty, imo. That being said, the child should not have to suffer for the sins of his mother and father. Support would have to be given to single mothers (whose mate refuses to marry them), in order for the child to be raised properly. We must also remember that if the 25 Points came into power, the overall society will already be Traditional, or on its way to becoming such, so feminism and THOTs won't exist in the same manner they do now. Unwed mothers would be a rare thing, vs commonplace, as it is now.

If they're forced to struggle on their own as a result of their actions I think you'll find it happening much less than if they're supported to similar extents by the state as if they had a husband

I think thots will only not exist if you do not support and enable them tbh

Lebensborn II when?

Like I said, we will already have a Traditional society, so these matters won't be commonplace, due to social stigmas.

Via birth control, medical advancements regarding STD's, and financial assistance

Himmler encouraged SS officers to have children, legitimate or not

I am 100% against birth control...Jewish castration of our people.

That was within the context of fighting a world war, Hadrian

Not peacetime, so there is a difference imo

We haven't been at peace in a long time

No, but this is all supposing having a traditional ethnostate

we're fighting for the survival of our race. Having children is even more important now than it was back then

I dislike Himmler, so his thoughts on illegitimate children is irrelevant to me.

I think you're missing my point. I'm not talking about now, though I think that's a bad idea too. This is supposing when we don't have to fight for our existence, when it's already secured. Having bastard children when there's no war to be fought seems like a terrible idea

>If they're forced to struggle on their own as a result of their actions I think you'll find it happening much less than if they're supported to similar extents by the state as if they had a husband
It's not like white societies have ever been free of bastards or thots. It's not like instating Lebensborn was Hitler telling all German women to whore as much as possible. I feel that's a pretty libertarian way of looking at things. It's more likely the program would make sure white child will grow up to be a better citizen having a happy childhood free of want, rather than whores thinking that's TWP party's big ole thumbs up to jump on the dick carousel. If you think whores whore just because government let's them, it's not true, they're just being more open about it, but whores will always whore.

If you need bodies, that's one thing, but normally theres no reason for that

Once we have the society we want, then absolutely it should be discouraged and stigmatized

I think if you are to have bastard children from the % of women who will whore about regardless, they should be put up for adoption as the mother is probably less fit to raise them than some infertile couple

Rather than incentivize it by supporting the mother and child

Throw THOTs into Convents...problem solved.

eh people do make mistakes

They do, yes, but by there not being consequences others are less likely to learn from their mistakes

and if a couple of teenagers do get knocked up, I'd much rather they be able to have and raise the child rather than it ruining their lives like it does now

I'd say in such a situation there should be pressure to get married as there was before

If they do, whatever

@Arcturus How do you institutionalize shotgun weddings?

absolutely yes, but they'll still need support

@John Mosby

I'm not really sure. I think social shame would do much of the work as it did in the past

Yeah, that's just it, the program is for state institutions pretty much. You can start some extra governmental fascist version of Mao's Cultural Revolution and cane whores on the street,.

Might work.

We still need to support them. The child is an innocent

Perhaps just penalize both of the parents if they do not, I dunno. Child support as it is now isn't such a bad idea in theory.

@Vice Commander Hunt

I am a Christian before I am a National Socialist. If we throw out morality to "preserve" anything, then it isn't worth it. Christ and the Saints lead my thoughts, not Rockwell (I am not a big fan of Rockwell, anyway, tbh...I much preferred Stoner and the NSRP).

http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb60.htm

Have the father pay the state for the cost he put on society by supporting the mother or something, don't give benefits to the mother so she and her family has to support the child

Well National Socialism is my faith and ideology so I look at things through those lenses, what is most beneficial for our race.

If they get married, have neither of those happen, perhaps give support to the new parents

Right outside of Orwells old home.

There's a case to be made that disincentivizing that would be most beneficial to our race by having healthier people growing in it