Message from Overman in tradworker #tradworker

2017-01-29 02:22:33 UTC  

Lots of opportunities.

2017-01-29 02:22:37 UTC  

Well, here on the streets you can easily get people to agree Hitler should have won (If you ask people if 'we' should have won, there's no way anyone will say "no" if they're not straight up red) but then have reservation towards NRM because we're tight with Swedes.

2017-01-29 02:22:37 UTC  


2017-01-29 02:22:53 UTC

2017-01-29 02:23:32 UTC  

It's all dependent on how much nuance is allowed for a label or a set of views.

2017-01-29 02:23:57 UTC  

USA affords none for us, as I stated before, but that may be changing.

2017-01-29 02:24:05 UTC  

I mean look at the Spencer incident

2017-01-29 02:24:10 UTC  

MFW fucking Posobiec links NRM

2017-01-29 02:24:26 UTC  

I'm not too fond of the concept of a overton window

2017-01-29 02:24:40 UTC  

It's real and has merit but it debatably doesn't matter

2017-01-29 02:24:43 UTC  

@parrott Citizens For Trump = Literal Hitler

2017-01-29 02:24:49 UTC  

let me finish ffs

2017-01-29 02:24:52 UTC  

I am lol

2017-01-29 02:24:57 UTC  

it's text you can't be talked over

2017-01-29 02:25:04 UTC  

fuck u

2017-01-29 02:25:06 UTC  


2017-01-29 02:25:15 UTC  

the original overton window is bullshit

2017-01-29 02:25:24 UTC  

it's not about pushing boundaries in political discourse

2017-01-29 02:25:34 UTC  

it's simply a matter of what you can get away with (without being ostracised, beaten up or jailed)

2017-01-29 02:25:50 UTC  

and as it stands, you can't get away with any sort of racism or nazism in the USA

2017-01-29 02:25:57 UTC  

so no, the window hasn't moved

2017-01-29 02:27:30 UTC  

Are we allowed to chat yet?

2017-01-29 02:27:35 UTC  

It's impossible to give a worldwide standard for changing political discourse. Overton window is bullshit. It's a zero sum game, either you get away with it or you don't, there isn't, shouldn't and can't be a standard for it, if you're smart, you recognize it.

2017-01-29 02:28:39 UTC  

For example, MP can survive hanging out with us, while posting even friatider will get you fired in Sweden:

2017-01-29 02:28:51 UTC  

To state that the window of acceptable discourse in public hasn't changed in the past couple years is absurd.

I've literally got multiple high school classmates liking my fashy social media posts and lamenting the refugee crisis, black crime, and Jewish bankers.

2017-01-29 02:29:04 UTC  

But then again, you couldn't directly link to our stuff. You have to maintain this air of plausable deniability

2017-01-29 02:29:45 UTC  

overton window states that public discourse changes when people start discussing increasingly extreme subjects

2017-01-29 02:30:01 UTC  

what happened in the US is simply a change of circumstances and issues perceived by the people

2017-01-29 02:30:17 UTC  

it didn't happen by gradually hammering anti-immigration talks on their ears

2017-01-29 02:30:23 UTC  

I was just defining it broadly by what is socially acceptable to talk about at least without being blanket-banned from the media/most people

2017-01-29 02:30:40 UTC  

maybe normies are a good frame of reference to use

2017-01-29 02:31:12 UTC  

well, yeah

2017-01-29 02:31:20 UTC  

You're defining it more specifically, I'm not

2017-01-29 02:31:21 UTC  

"ban the muslims," "end the fed," "America First," "nationalism against globalism,"... This shit wasn't allowed in public spaces a few years back.

2017-01-29 02:31:21 UTC  

but again what we've talked earlier makes more sense

2017-01-29 02:31:44 UTC  

I remember this case a True Finn representative from Vaasa was hanging out in this one skin joint, and leftist got butthurt, but he didn't get in trouble. But then another representative got a warning for posting ethnic hatefacts on FB.

2017-01-29 02:31:44 UTC  

people go with what is trending and with the stronger horse

2017-01-29 02:31:53 UTC  

What gets you in trouble and what doesn't is really ambiguous

2017-01-29 02:32:02 UTC  

From time to time.

2017-01-29 02:32:41 UTC  

Plausable deniability, that's how Plowshares into Swords can work with Actual Important People while being a raging closet nazi.