Message from @AltCelt(IL)

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2017-12-12 17:40:08 UTC  

Jesus actually did Direct Action

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/390196136431845376/June-10-Jesus-with-whip.jpg

2017-12-12 17:40:16 UTC  

damn, u right

2017-12-12 17:41:19 UTC  
2017-12-12 17:41:37 UTC  

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2017-12-12 17:42:10 UTC  

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2017-12-12 17:43:32 UTC  

@Vice Commander Hunt

Siege promotes militant revolution and lone wolf/leaderless resistance....essentially everything that Mason and Tommasi failed to do with NSLF.

The book is fucking retarded...there I said it, and everything he criticizes in it is exactly what TWP is doing. Piss on Mason and those fetish nazis, they never accomplished shit.

2017-12-12 17:43:52 UTC  

t. somebody that never read it

2017-12-12 17:44:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/390197180960604170/17862368_10155318773479875_8997470722910376488_n.jpg

2017-12-12 17:44:19 UTC  

John has been in this movement for over a decade, and trust me, he's read it

2017-12-12 17:45:04 UTC  

#NeverForget

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2017-12-12 17:45:07 UTC  

forgive me for not believing you

2017-12-12 17:45:23 UTC  

considering he has no idea what he's talking about

2017-12-12 17:45:57 UTC  

I mean, you can not believe me, but its the Truth. Look i wouldnt use such strong words, but Siege is not an actual model for us to use. There are a lot of great sections in it, but we need to build a nation of our own, and Siege isnt the blueprint for that

2017-12-12 17:46:12 UTC  

If he read it, he never read past the first page.

2017-12-12 17:46:16 UTC  

I havent read all of it yet, but its really up for interpretation and context in some places.

2017-12-12 17:46:43 UTC  

Def not to be swallowed whole

2017-12-12 17:46:52 UTC  

Siege was written in the dark days of the movement, where there wasnt the internet, and things seemed rather bleak. But technology and a changing environment has provided us different opportunities

2017-12-12 17:47:05 UTC  

Even Mason in his interview a few months ago came out against Direct Action as a method of change

2017-12-12 17:47:23 UTC  

And he's gone from being a Satanist to being some sort of Christian these days

2017-12-12 17:47:41 UTC  

The book says that there are two options: total war or total dropout. It also says that if you're feeling particularly suicidal, feel free to pick total war, but total dropout is the only real option in today's society

2017-12-12 17:47:44 UTC  

The Satanist thing threw me for a loop

2017-12-12 17:48:50 UTC  

We can build infrastructure and community without totally dropping out. Waco happened because the Branch Davidians had little to no contact with their neighbors and werent a part of the community. An Amish model of half in, half out; where we haveo ur own self sufficient communities that then can trade and provide services to the local community, is a far better path than running off to the woods waiting for us to get Ruby Ridge'd

2017-12-12 17:51:15 UTC  

But for the record, Charles Manson's vision of hiding in a mountain so a race war happens, Whites lose, and then a small group can lord over the black and brown population is not a good path forward at all. Haiti sure as heck isnt begging for colonialism again, that is just a silly plan

2017-12-12 17:51:35 UTC  

brb

2017-12-12 17:52:06 UTC  

@Vice Commander Hunt

I've read the whole thing, before you even thought about white nationalism...

Mason writes like a teenager, and his own actions and that of NSLF alone show that his strategies were worthless.

Total war and total dropout are defeatist tactics. Total war (real total war, not the BS tactics that some of ANP guys tried) was waged only a decade before Siege, and it failed. Total Dropout was used by the movement for decades after Siege and it too failed.

Reading Siege, and taking it for anything more than a collection of historical articles (poorly written, might I add), then why are they involved in this Cause?

TWP and most of the Movement are seeking to become ingrained in society, not aloof to it.

2017-12-12 17:53:18 UTC  

How do you feel about Pierce @John Mosby ?

2017-12-12 17:54:01 UTC  

I strongly dislike Pierce.

He was a classist and a hardcore anti-Christian.

I grew up on: Butler, Swift, and Beam.

2017-12-12 17:54:26 UTC  

Although Pierce was rather sympathetic to Orthodoxy, just for the record

2017-12-12 17:54:46 UTC  

Interesting. I wasn't aware he even knew what Orthodoxy was.

2017-12-12 17:55:06 UTC  

Yeah he spoke several times about how that was the only branch of Christianity he respected and thought was healthy

2017-12-12 17:55:22 UTC  

I know some old calenderist priest he had written letters with during the 80s

2017-12-12 17:55:23 UTC  

It is

2017-12-12 17:55:39 UTC  

@MatthewHeimbach Technically Mason didnt come out against direct action but against suicidal pointless action, which was in the book too.

2017-12-12 17:56:33 UTC  

Well true, but look, it isnt a viable model of change, it just isn't. ZOG is going to fall under its own weight, we need to be ready with the men and infrastructure to assert our political will in the vacuum created by ZOG being unable to provide basic safety, food, and stability for our communities

2017-12-12 17:57:03 UTC  

Same as Hezbollah running south lebanon, or the Irish republicans running entire sections of Northern Ireland during the Troubles

2017-12-12 17:57:05 UTC  

Exqctly

2017-12-12 17:57:13 UTC  

Exactly *

2017-12-12 17:57:15 UTC  

ok actually brb this time. lol

2017-12-12 17:57:36 UTC  

Escalation is happening. We need to prepare for that.

2017-12-12 17:58:13 UTC  

Golden Dawn functioning as a second government is another example

2017-12-12 17:58:34 UTC  

Hungry Greeks turn to Golden Dawn to be fed when the government fails