Message from Klutch in tradworker #tradworker


2017-11-04 00:56:59 UTC  

A small portion

2017-11-04 00:57:15 UTC  

Most welfare recipients are non white. They aren't parasites?

2017-11-04 00:57:50 UTC  

Many lifers exist in welfare because they hit a road block. Where its more profitable to stay at a certain income level while receiving welfare, than to receive a dollar or two raise in pay, but lose the welfare

2017-11-04 00:58:09 UTC  

They suffer under a broken system that exists and benefits from keeping them in service

2017-11-04 00:58:10 UTC  

Yes, that's the welfare cliff

2017-11-04 00:58:32 UTC  

And this culture we have promotes pleasure and the individual needs above collective good. When we implement cultural changes to promote community and family, people won't want to be parasites

2017-11-04 00:58:33 UTC  

But it's false to compare this to national socialism

2017-11-04 00:58:34 UTC  

It creates a perverse incentive to not work longer hours & avoid pay raises

2017-11-04 00:58:53 UTC  

If we eliminate welfare, people won't have the possibility to be parasites

2017-11-04 00:59:24 UTC  

Either be productive or starve. If you are a legitimate victim, then private charity can fill in. It's not moral if I'm forced to give money at the point of a gun

2017-11-04 00:59:29 UTC  

In a high trust society like we want, we can have nice things like welfare and universal health care

2017-11-04 00:59:50 UTC  

You don't need universal healthcare to have healthcare

2017-11-04 01:00:08 UTC  

Along the lines of what Hadrian is saying. You're focusing on the socialism under our current low trust broken system, while ignoring the results of socialism under a high trust nationalistic system

2017-11-04 01:00:14 UTC  

Everything government currently provides was once provided by private individuals

2017-11-04 01:00:23 UTC  

Or not provided in any form

2017-11-04 01:00:32 UTC  

I agree that any system is going to work better with whites

2017-11-04 01:00:38 UTC  

And people lived for 35 miserable years

2017-11-04 01:00:39 UTC  

It's not just about being under whites

2017-11-04 01:00:47 UTC  

Libya worked wonderfully

2017-11-04 01:00:57 UTC  

Before (((They))) killed Ghaddafi

2017-11-04 01:01:05 UTC  

Hadrian, because we had a much poorer understanding of modern medicine, not because a lack of government. Everyone died young

2017-11-04 01:01:32 UTC  

What motivated people to improve healhcare. Because it was not primarily profit

2017-11-04 01:01:45 UTC  

It was out of a sense of common good and duty to ones people

2017-11-04 01:01:58 UTC  

Not just medicine. Local crop failures led to mass starvation, among other things

2017-11-04 01:01:59 UTC  

Or profit

2017-11-04 01:02:14 UTC  

Anyways the wife is glaring at me. I gotta put my kid to bed. Feel free to keep it going. Discussion is good

2017-11-04 01:02:23 UTC  

Because if you offer a magic pill that increases your lifespan 50 years, do you think people would be willing to pay you for that?

2017-11-04 01:02:45 UTC  

Goodnight bro, and thank you for doing your part at repopulating our race

2017-11-04 01:03:34 UTC  

We'll never measure up to those chad IE guys man. Getting shouted down by a bunch of fat pink hairs at gainesville

2017-11-04 01:03:41 UTC  

That was peak optics right there

2017-11-04 01:04:06 UTC  

My ideal society is a 100% white ethnostate with maximum freedom. If people want to form a socialist commune within the country, they should be able to, but the libertarian town shouldn't be forced to pay for it

2017-11-04 01:04:33 UTC  

Don't you want to help your fellow people?

2017-11-04 01:04:52 UTC  

Yes, and I do, through charity

2017-11-04 01:05:00 UTC  

Taxation and welfare is theft and violence, not charity

2017-11-04 01:05:09 UTC  

It's not moral if I have a gun held to my head

2017-11-04 01:05:23 UTC  

You realize this is a discord chanel for TWP, a national SOCIALIST org right?

2017-11-04 01:05:32 UTC  

Not trying to shit on you man but cmon

2017-11-04 01:06:25 UTC  

And you shouldn't be allowed to accumulate wealth through unrestrained greed while your fellow white people are poor through no fault of their own

2017-11-04 01:06:47 UTC  

Jones agrees that debate is good. If mods don't want opposing viewpoints then I'll stop bringing it up.

2017-11-04 01:07:13 UTC  

How is it greed to want to keep the money I earned, but it's not greed to want to take it from me?

2017-11-04 01:07:30 UTC  

It's not that you earn money, it's how you do so