Message from Klutch in tradworker #tradworker
A small portion
Most welfare recipients are non white. They aren't parasites?
Many lifers exist in welfare because they hit a road block. Where its more profitable to stay at a certain income level while receiving welfare, than to receive a dollar or two raise in pay, but lose the welfare
They suffer under a broken system that exists and benefits from keeping them in service
Yes, that's the welfare cliff
And this culture we have promotes pleasure and the individual needs above collective good. When we implement cultural changes to promote community and family, people won't want to be parasites
But it's false to compare this to national socialism
It creates a perverse incentive to not work longer hours & avoid pay raises
If we eliminate welfare, people won't have the possibility to be parasites
Either be productive or starve. If you are a legitimate victim, then private charity can fill in. It's not moral if I'm forced to give money at the point of a gun
In a high trust society like we want, we can have nice things like welfare and universal health care
You don't need universal healthcare to have healthcare
Along the lines of what Hadrian is saying. You're focusing on the socialism under our current low trust broken system, while ignoring the results of socialism under a high trust nationalistic system
Everything government currently provides was once provided by private individuals
Or not provided in any form
I agree that any system is going to work better with whites
And people lived for 35 miserable years
It's not just about being under whites
Libya worked wonderfully
Before (((They))) killed Ghaddafi
Hadrian, because we had a much poorer understanding of modern medicine, not because a lack of government. Everyone died young
What motivated people to improve healhcare. Because it was not primarily profit
It was out of a sense of common good and duty to ones people
Not just medicine. Local crop failures led to mass starvation, among other things
Anyways the wife is glaring at me. I gotta put my kid to bed. Feel free to keep it going. Discussion is good
Because if you offer a magic pill that increases your lifespan 50 years, do you think people would be willing to pay you for that?
Goodnight bro, and thank you for doing your part at repopulating our race
We'll never measure up to those chad IE guys man. Getting shouted down by a bunch of fat pink hairs at gainesville
That was peak optics right there
My ideal society is a 100% white ethnostate with maximum freedom. If people want to form a socialist commune within the country, they should be able to, but the libertarian town shouldn't be forced to pay for it
Don't you want to help your fellow people?
Yes, and I do, through charity
Taxation and welfare is theft and violence, not charity
It's not moral if I have a gun held to my head
You realize this is a discord chanel for TWP, a national SOCIALIST org right?
Not trying to shit on you man but cmon
And you shouldn't be allowed to accumulate wealth through unrestrained greed while your fellow white people are poor through no fault of their own
Jones agrees that debate is good. If mods don't want opposing viewpoints then I'll stop bringing it up.
How is it greed to want to keep the money I earned, but it's not greed to want to take it from me?
It's not that you earn money, it's how you do so