Message from @HURR DURR ROCKY TOP

Discord ID: 432354041591365644


2018-04-07 12:42:26 UTC  

We implemented a democratic process to avoid political violence, if people are advocating political violence to reach their goals, something isn't right there. It's the paradox of tolerance, we aren't tolerant without limit, the limit is advocating political violence for a radical minority opinion.

2018-04-07 13:02:07 UTC  

Democracy is political violence for the majority opinion though.

2018-04-07 13:05:15 UTC  

That's true, but I don't see a viable alternative to enforcing majority opinion. Much different than enacting violence for a minority opinion.

2018-04-07 13:19:31 UTC  

Majority opinion isn’t always desirable for enforcement.

2018-04-07 13:20:18 UTC  

Being a really good wire puller does not a good political governor make

2018-04-07 14:26:00 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428940051896860672/432184274234638336/Mandelson.jpg

2018-04-07 14:51:02 UTC  

"it should be the goal of any peace loving society to have a population feel safe enough that they see no reason to have weapons, however it should than also be the duty of every citizen within that society to seek to defend the peace the have created"

2018-04-08 01:40:18 UTC  

"maybe maybe maybe"

2018-04-08 01:40:30 UTC  

"actually"

2018-04-08 01:40:36 UTC  

"actually maybe"

2018-04-08 01:41:01 UTC  

on peut aller loin avec des si

2018-04-08 01:41:24 UTC  
2018-04-08 01:41:29 UTC  

"only those who disagree are idiots" is not an argument

2018-04-08 01:41:29 UTC  

but unfortunate

2018-04-08 01:42:14 UTC  

The main issue is consent, a fangirl is very different from an employee

2018-04-08 01:42:21 UTC  

@HURR DURR ROCKY TOP still using google translate?

2018-04-08 01:42:56 UTC  

@Chépakoi nope, I thought that was a saying

2018-04-08 01:43:13 UTC  

The fangirl/fanboy has a choice to be a fan or not, the employee has to make money.

2018-04-08 01:43:48 UTC  

Eh ben, Ellen comprend le français

2018-04-08 01:45:23 UTC  

wait are we now saying he raped them?

2018-04-08 01:46:12 UTC  

wat jail?

2018-04-08 01:46:36 UTC  

If he had consent, and they were past the age of consent, who was wronged? Do women not have the mental capacity to consent or not?

2018-04-08 01:48:25 UTC  

Are we claiming that fame can override a persons ability to consent?

2018-04-08 01:48:46 UTC  

@PrincipledLiberal I don't think he had consent but if he didn't lay a finger on them, if he didn't verbally abuse them, who was wronged?

2018-04-08 01:49:39 UTC  

she shouldn't fear damaging the social relationship; he did it already when the dick came out.

2018-04-08 01:51:42 UTC  

asking about free will ; are you leading us down the coercion route?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428940051896860672/432356837413879829/Screenshot_from_2018-04-07_215058.png

2018-04-08 01:52:44 UTC  

putting a gun to me head and asking to choose my money or my life -- is *not* a free will decision. It robs me of my liberty.

2018-04-08 01:52:59 UTC  

According to the "Sam Harris" definition, I would agree that it does not exist. But I don't think this is a useful definition. The more relevant question is does moral agency exist, which I think certainly exists.

2018-04-08 01:53:34 UTC  

compatiblist / determinist / fatalist ; I know none of these terms.

2018-04-08 01:54:29 UTC  

The common use of the term "free will" is talking about moral agency, philosophers confuse the issue by using "free will" in the deterministic sense.