Message from @dd✳555
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"In the Hindu tradition we encounter the theme of Mahakasyapa, who sleeps in a mountain but will awaken at the sound of shells at the time of the new manifestation of the principle that previously manifested itself in the form of Buddha. Such a period is also that of the coming of a Universal Ruler (cakravartin) by the name of Sarpkha...l. An analogous Iranian tradition refers to the hero Kereshaspa, who, having been wounded by an arrow while he was immersed in a state of slumber (here we find again the same symbolism), survives in a lethargic state through the centuries, being nurtured by the fravashi (like the wounded Arthur, who is tended by women expert in healing techniques); he will come back to life at the time of Saoshyant’s advent and will fight on his side. Saoshyant is the lord of a future, triumphal kingdom of the God of Light and the slayer of the Arhimanic dark forces…"
They're the two biggest prophets, there're smaller ones like James L. Battersby, I guess Anton Holzner in a way, and Sigurd Wettenhovi-Aspa and Robert Charroux too although I have not read the latter.
Mithra and Ahriman, light and dark. I wish to one day know the religion of the Atlanteans. Lost to time.
Yeah. I could spend all day making connections, but one of the very last words of Kalevala, by the departing hero really stuck me:
"Suns may rise and set in Suomi,
Rise and set for generations,
When the North will learn my teachings,
Will recall my wisdom-sayings,
Hungry for the true religion.
Then will Suomi need my coming,
Watch for me at dawn of morning,
That I may bring back the Sampo,
Bring anew the harp of joyance,
Bring again the golden moonlight,
Bring again the silver sunshine,
Peace and plenty to the Northland."
As translated by J M Crawford. Doesn't really do it justice, but you can see how it fits perfectly into the leaving/returning King archeotype straight from collective aryan blood memory.
"Bring again the golden moonlight" reminds also of what Evola said in The Myth of the Holy Grail, a "Lunar cycle" is a spiritual cycle where the Light/Truth is only reflected from the source. Supposed to be a time of inner meditation and priestly guidance. Gold as a symbol of the sun, or Light, would then mean that what Väinämöinen implies is a solar inner awakening, much like the Golden Age, where aryans possess the Truth without going through karmic rebirths.
Once you "get" EH, you see the world in entirely different light, the aryan collective spirituality is everywhere in our tradition, from one end of the world to another.
Man that is heavy stuff, resonates greatly. Powerful. I totally agree, this changes you. Never again back to sleep.
You really know your stuff, comrade. Proud to converse with you.
Talking with other EHs is always a joy, especially those from different parts of the world, when they can tell how their local legends reflect the Truth as explained by Savitri and Serrano, you're in awe how we're all connected in such a deep way.
I'm reading Alex Kurtagic's translation of The Golden Thread now. It's excellent. Jason T. is also doing one now, to be released the day of the eclipse as far as I know. Looking forward to comparing the two (or three if you count Jason's first translation.
Yeah, it's just one of those books you could and want to quote endlessly. But I'll spare you this time.
I'll have to concentrate some day to write an actual EH analysis of our myths as not to drown all the Discords I'm in in esotericism.
You really should.
Too bad, I guess you're going to miss the eclipse.
But you get to live in Finland so I guess that makes up for it.
I guess I'll live with it. I also got files of 100,000 (100k!) pagan spells and incantations. In print it's 34 volume book. I'm pretty much set for life.
I am unfamiliar with this. Can y'all give me some cliff notes ?
Can you be any more specific?
Wow, that's fascinating. I've read the Kalevala translated.
I am also not familiar with that haha
School me
Everyone knows the White Horse motif, but I'm fascinated by the Swan in Kalevala, it also had huge influence in Hinduism (Saraswati), and even in the Arthurian legend.
Lemminkäinen was cut into pieces and pieced back together like Osiris as he attempted to slay the swan crossing the river into the underworld. Reading up about swans in aryan mythology atm.
I feel like I'm talking to Aryan Pod People lol
So what do you wanna know, esoteric hitlerism, kalevala, etc?
Yeah I was talking about that white horse just recently. All world mythos lead to a singular truth.
Just a short briefing of it all.
Very interesting stuff, and I thought I was a bit of a scholar on this.
Very interesting stuff, and I thought I was a bit of a scholar on this.
Well, @Kombat-Unit is the only person in existence who could explain something like that in a single post in Discord, so I'll leave him to it.
I could quote Serrano himself about “Three fundamental positions of Esoteric Hitlerism". From Golden Thread, where else.
"The position that all of these concepts and narratives are purely symbolic for the inner processes of the soul towards liberation/transcendence
The position that these things are the “as above” equivalents for the real world “so below” concepts that do/did really exist, like Hyperborea and Atlantis, and this position drives people to establish a Golden Age on Earth (he associates Evola’s direction with this via Evola’s promotion of an esoteric order/aristocracy establishing an organic state and etc)
Lastly: “besides these two directions which seem to be different, there is also a third one, that contains the previous ones and reconciles them”
Well, might be still too esoteric.
To put it as simply as I can, all Aryans share a collective spirituality, and we have only forgotten our connection due to the corruption of blood memory. All our myths and faiths are the same, with only minor variations of different volksgeists.
Esoteric Hitlerism is about discovering this deep connection, and restoration of Golden Age.
That's perfect.
It's hard for me to explain some of that stuff to "Solid Earth" National Socialists. I spend so much time talking with the hollow earth subset.
God, Kalevala resonates so amazingly with Esoteric Hitlerism. "The Northland" was usually seen as the land of the dead. Much like Heracles, Lemminkäinen in the role of the god of war goes to "hades" to retreive his love and learns secrets during his journey. The water is also an important symbol. Water typically represents the passions and material existence. It represents transcendence above the crudely material, which is why figures walk on water in several myths. Also the leader of Finnish pagan rites was half-submerged in water as he made an offering to the Gods of air, symbolic meaning that hes a medium between the otherwordly and wordly. Also, the attempt to kill the swan crossing the river could be seen as an attempt to disrupt natural order, since swans represented the soul travelling from material world to the underworld, netherworld.
God, I could keep on doing this all day.