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You're taking the behavior of people who live in orderly, governed societies, and saying that behavior would be replicated in societies without orderly government
yeah
laws are meaningless: good people would follow them anyway and bad people dont follow them even when theyre here
are you saying in a civilized setting there isnt a centralized power able to enforce law
lol no
bad people follow laws
like all the time
yeah, civilization can occur without a central power
some people have greater predisposition
whoah slow down
to brake the law'
Which civilization occurred without a central power
i dont know any off the top of my head but they do exist
Such as
like i said, i dont know any
Google some if you want
Then how do you know they exist
and even if they dont, it doesnt mean theyre impossible
there is no civilizations without some form of state controlled governance
there are societies without them
Just very improbable
but not civilizations
Brb
a lot of things were very improbable before they existed. If this universe has shown us anything, is that improbable stuff happen all the time
I'm just curious about examples here
I can think of some societies off the top of my head that lacked central government
Medieval Ireland
The Icelandic Commonwealth
Some pre-Roman Germanic tribes
well the funny thing is, most attempts of creating *anything* other than our current system of state supported capitalism have been destabilized by existing superpowers, namely the USA
i dont care about whether ancom existed in history or not
people often go there in arguments and its completely pointless
if you only give value to the things that existed before in history, then you cant argue anything *but* the status quo
if we debated things on the merit of whether they existed before, literally every single advancement in civilization would not have happened
so let not
I would say precedent is a very solid determinant of if something will work or not, but fine, we can avoid that topic for now
How would you accomplish your ultimate goal
through technology
we've already seen where technology has allowed functioning decentralized organizations to thrive