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how else you gonna get things done
im just mind boggled rn
Why
i just came back but i saw the question
"you cant maintain order without violence"
wtf?
Yes
when you go to the supermarket, do you use violence to buy groceries?
do you use violence when you give someone a gift?
@Deleted User what prevents me from robbing the supermarket?
would you rob the supermarket without laws?
many would
cops are people too
not just government employees
no, would *you* rob the supermarket
The supermarket?
Let's see
depends on the supermarket
lol
probably not
i dunno
The government built the highways which carry the food to my supermarket
The supermarket stays in business because it knows that even if it is robbed it can go to the proper authorities
the problem with your argument is that you think that these things cant exist without government
I don't think that international trade routes can exist without government
just because our world functions through violence and coercion right now, doesnt mean it cant function without it
many people didnt think men could land on the moon either
again, youre equating probability with possibility
it cant
prove it?
thats like saying disprove god
but we can make statement of relative degrees of certainty
The fact hthat violence has always been a part of human civilization suggests it will probably always continue to be so
like we can show that almost every civilization had a state by which violence was used as a force to instill order
again, that doesnt cancel the posibility of self governance without a state
You can't compare "technological innovation" to "social order"
They're not the same thing
they arent
like dravidian civilizations barely had a military but they still had a force to instill order
but you cant use a longstanding trend to prove the status quo will remain that way
yeah but they suggesting it wont with little evidence is basically insane