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I don't think that international trade routes can exist without government
just because our world functions through violence and coercion right now, doesnt mean it cant function without it
many people didnt think men could land on the moon either
again, youre equating probability with possibility
it cant
prove it?
thats like saying disprove god
but we can make statement of relative degrees of certainty
The fact hthat violence has always been a part of human civilization suggests it will probably always continue to be so
like we can show that almost every civilization had a state by which violence was used as a force to instill order
again, that doesnt cancel the posibility of self governance without a state
You can't compare "technological innovation" to "social order"
They're not the same thing
they arent
like dravidian civilizations barely had a military but they still had a force to instill order
but you cant use a longstanding trend to prove the status quo will remain that way
yeah but they suggesting it wont with little evidence is basically insane
im not saying that it wont
im saying that its possible that it might not
Of course it's possible
What I'm denying is that you can ever get to that point
isnt that the same thing?
the supermarket shipping thing reminded me of this video
seen it
Container ships are amazing
All pay respect to the inventor of the shipping container
the only two stroke engine that deserves to exist is diesel two strokes used in ships
imo
but yeah, arguing on the basis of the status quo doesnt really make sense because things can and do change all the time
All I asked for was one example
changes occur in predictive patterns
and i dont have any
because it would be a first in human history
but a lot of things were firsts in human history
so whats your point?
like change occurring doesnt mean that the state of reality just magically shifts
a car was never in space before
doesnt deny its possibility