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no?
it does have an implication of violence
ive seen this very thing happen many times
and ive seen opposites
if a kid continues to be disruptive, violent or so on
so your absolute statement is disproved
what happens?
no it isnt
yeah it has
if i a police officer arrests me
and i comply
that doesnt mean the threat of violence doesnt exist
it just means i complied
not talking about being arrested
would you understand this better if i used the term force instead of violence
im talking about whether order can exist without violence
`and ive seen opposite` as have I
same logic applies to a class room
same thing
order can only be enforced through violence
Lots of anarchists and libertarians essentially believe in the idea of the "better angels of our nature"
no
That there truly is a real moral sentiment in humans
But there isn't
order can happen automatically
We're just animals
`order can happen automatically`
what
yeah
people self organize all the time
you see it in tons of disaster scenarios for example
Spontaneous order does exist
do you know what automatically means?
That's true
earthquakes, tsunamis,
instead of chaos and anarchy, people help each other
true or false
Some people do
exactly
it happens
And some don't