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2018-12-31 06:35:36 UTC  

no?

2018-12-31 06:35:38 UTC  

it does have an implication of violence

2018-12-31 06:35:47 UTC  

ive seen this very thing happen many times

2018-12-31 06:36:01 UTC  

and ive seen opposites

2018-12-31 06:36:03 UTC  

if a kid continues to be disruptive, violent or so on

2018-12-31 06:36:10 UTC  

so your absolute statement is disproved

2018-12-31 06:36:15 UTC  

what happens?

2018-12-31 06:36:20 UTC  

no it isnt

2018-12-31 06:36:26 UTC  

yeah it has

2018-12-31 06:36:30 UTC  

if i a police officer arrests me

2018-12-31 06:36:34 UTC  

and i comply

2018-12-31 06:36:44 UTC  

that doesnt mean the threat of violence doesnt exist

2018-12-31 06:36:49 UTC  

it just means i complied

2018-12-31 06:37:04 UTC  

not talking about being arrested

2018-12-31 06:37:11 UTC  

would you understand this better if i used the term force instead of violence

2018-12-31 06:37:14 UTC  

im talking about whether order can exist without violence

2018-12-31 06:37:15 UTC  

`and ive seen opposite` as have I

2018-12-31 06:37:18 UTC  

same logic applies to a class room

2018-12-31 06:37:18 UTC  

same thing

2018-12-31 06:37:37 UTC  

order can only be enforced through violence

2018-12-31 06:37:39 UTC  

Lots of anarchists and libertarians essentially believe in the idea of the "better angels of our nature"

2018-12-31 06:37:41 UTC  

no

2018-12-31 06:37:45 UTC  

That there truly is a real moral sentiment in humans

2018-12-31 06:37:47 UTC  

But there isn't

2018-12-31 06:37:48 UTC  

order can happen automatically

2018-12-31 06:37:50 UTC  

We're just animals

2018-12-31 06:38:02 UTC  

`order can happen automatically`

2018-12-31 06:38:05 UTC  

what

2018-12-31 06:38:07 UTC  

yeah

2018-12-31 06:38:12 UTC  

people self organize all the time

2018-12-31 06:38:27 UTC  

you see it in tons of disaster scenarios for example

2018-12-31 06:38:32 UTC  

Spontaneous order does exist

2018-12-31 06:38:33 UTC  

do you know what automatically means?

2018-12-31 06:38:36 UTC  

That's true

2018-12-31 06:38:38 UTC  

earthquakes, tsunamis,

2018-12-31 06:38:48 UTC  

instead of chaos and anarchy, people help each other

2018-12-31 06:38:53 UTC  

true or false

2018-12-31 06:39:06 UTC  

Some people do

2018-12-31 06:39:11 UTC  

exactly

2018-12-31 06:39:14 UTC  

it happens

2018-12-31 06:39:14 UTC  

And some don't