Yep, that is pretty much the ukranian civil war in a nutshell.

The Rothschild dynasty was founded in 1769

surely azov isnt that stupid but hell the jews got us into WW2 so

the jews must ignore the fact that azov leans fash/nazi in a big way

so confused lol

The situation in Ukraine has a historical context. The so-called nationalists in Ukraine are UPA LARPers. The UPA was associated with Ukrainian anti-Eastern sentiment from that time forward.

@Hadrian Not the slave rebellions, but the actual arguing over the slaves, and keep in mind, that the rothschilds are not behind everything.

It's been exploited by NATO imperialists, the anti-Russian sentiment that the UPA imagery and myth re present

Not behind everything, no, but their money-changing houses enabled so many wars in Germany and elsewhere

That is true.

sometimes even funding both sides of a war

Hell, they defeated Napoleon too

Keeping the various Princes fighting each other prevented greaster unification and strength

So, it seems odd. In Donbass they talk about WW2 as the GPA, but they're still closer to NS than the people actually using NS imagery.

@FashyHillbilly I wonder when the big day will come when east ukraine get's annexed by russia, and ukraine declares it an act of war, but fails to do much about it.

I doubt that will happen, Putin sold out Donbass because he's also a Jewish puppet that won't really go to bat for his motherland.

They don't need to annex it

Its not their style

True, but seeing as how things have reached an uncomfortable stalemate, and donsekt as well as luhanks are not self-sufficent at all, I would have no doubt that they would be annexed soon.

setting up de facto governments that answer to them is better

@Hadrian Then why did russia annex crimean?

They had a better claim, Crimea was Russian until 57

Donbass has been part of the Soviet creation dubbed "Ukraine" since 1918

Holy fuck lmao

Its also strategically important

I didn’t realize maintaining territorial integrity is considered imperialism

there's a thicc natural gas pipeline that flows through it, and Sevastopol gives them control to the Black Sea

@FashyHillbilly To be fair ukraine did exist as a tiny kingdom in the middle ages....... before the khans came around and fucked them.

But I agree with you in that there is no true "ukraine".

The Ukraine is rightfully Russian Clay

>what even is the Cossacks

Ukraine having control over that pipeline is a choke point. Ukraine being in control of it makes sanctions against Russia crippling

Cossacks and tatars are spooks

@Hadrian But that is no longer the case, as well as the sanctions that are now being lifted.

they can be reapplied at any time

I wonder what would happen if the US forced turkey's hand to start blockading russian ships from going in and out of the black sea.....

Crimea has a lot of strategic importance to Russia

Putin was a smart jew, in that he recognized that obama is a pussy, and took a gambit at invading and annexing crimean, with the risk of causing a world war.\

Ukraine is facing Western Imperialism and Russian Imperialism simultaneously

I look at the uprising in Crimea as organic though, Putin just utilized it.