Message from @1Robertelee
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Once you "get" EH, you see the world in entirely different light, the aryan collective spirituality is everywhere in our tradition, from one end of the world to another.
Man that is heavy stuff, resonates greatly. Powerful. I totally agree, this changes you. Never again back to sleep.
You really know your stuff, comrade. Proud to converse with you.
Talking with other EHs is always a joy, especially those from different parts of the world, when they can tell how their local legends reflect the Truth as explained by Savitri and Serrano, you're in awe how we're all connected in such a deep way.
I'm reading Alex Kurtagic's translation of The Golden Thread now. It's excellent. Jason T. is also doing one now, to be released the day of the eclipse as far as I know. Looking forward to comparing the two (or three if you count Jason's first translation.
Yeah, it's just one of those books you could and want to quote endlessly. But I'll spare you this time.
I'll have to concentrate some day to write an actual EH analysis of our myths as not to drown all the Discords I'm in in esotericism.
You really should.
Too bad, I guess you're going to miss the eclipse.
But you get to live in Finland so I guess that makes up for it.
I guess I'll live with it. I also got files of 100,000 (100k!) pagan spells and incantations. In print it's 34 volume book. I'm pretty much set for life.
I am unfamiliar with this. Can y'all give me some cliff notes ?
Can you be any more specific?
Wow, that's fascinating. I've read the Kalevala translated.
Cliffs notes, maybe Amorphis lyrics?
I am also not familiar with that haha
School me
Everyone knows the White Horse motif, but I'm fascinated by the Swan in Kalevala, it also had huge influence in Hinduism (Saraswati), and even in the Arthurian legend.
Lemminkäinen was cut into pieces and pieced back together like Osiris as he attempted to slay the swan crossing the river into the underworld. Reading up about swans in aryan mythology atm.
So what do you wanna know, esoteric hitlerism, kalevala, etc?
Yeah I was talking about that white horse just recently. All world mythos lead to a singular truth.
Just a short briefing of it all.
Very interesting stuff, and I thought I was a bit of a scholar on this.
Very interesting stuff, and I thought I was a bit of a scholar on this.
Well, @Kombat-Unit is the only person in existence who could explain something like that in a single post in Discord, so I'll leave him to it.
I could quote Serrano himself about “Three fundamental positions of Esoteric Hitlerism". From Golden Thread, where else.
"The position that all of these concepts and narratives are purely symbolic for the inner processes of the soul towards liberation/transcendence
The position that these things are the “as above” equivalents for the real world “so below” concepts that do/did really exist, like Hyperborea and Atlantis, and this position drives people to establish a Golden Age on Earth (he associates Evola’s direction with this via Evola’s promotion of an esoteric order/aristocracy establishing an organic state and etc)
Lastly: “besides these two directions which seem to be different, there is also a third one, that contains the previous ones and reconciles them”
Well, might be still too esoteric.
To put it as simply as I can, all Aryans share a collective spirituality, and we have only forgotten our connection due to the corruption of blood memory. All our myths and faiths are the same, with only minor variations of different volksgeists.
Esoteric Hitlerism is about discovering this deep connection, and restoration of Golden Age.
That's perfect.
It's hard for me to explain some of that stuff to "Solid Earth" National Socialists. I spend so much time talking with the hollow earth subset.
God, Kalevala resonates so amazingly with Esoteric Hitlerism. "The Northland" was usually seen as the land of the dead. Much like Heracles, Lemminkäinen in the role of the god of war goes to "hades" to retreive his love and learns secrets during his journey. The water is also an important symbol. Water typically represents the passions and material existence. It represents transcendence above the crudely material, which is why figures walk on water in several myths. Also the leader of Finnish pagan rites was half-submerged in water as he made an offering to the Gods of air, symbolic meaning that hes a medium between the otherwordly and wordly. Also, the attempt to kill the swan crossing the river could be seen as an attempt to disrupt natural order, since swans represented the soul travelling from material world to the underworld, netherworld.
God, I could keep on doing this all day.
https://kansakunnanomaisuutta.fi/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/gallen-kallela-Aino_01.jpg
I really like this piece of Kalevala art, water motif. And also swastikas.
Also the part where Ilmarinen forges a wife out of Gold, and destroys her at the suggestion of Väinämöinen, and instead goes to the north, to the land of the dead, to seek a wife, and for a quest of wisdom, and eventually reclaims Sun and Moonlight stolen by the mistress of the north. It's just so heavy with symbolism I could keep going on and on.
That's amazing! I was just recently making the connection between EH and Kalevala. I was trying to explain the Cosmic Egg to someone...
You should really do some writing about the parallels there. I don't see it mentioned in anything I've read before. It's important, I think.
Smiths have allways been revered as magicians, wise men, the men bending the power of nature to their will utilizing all the elements. It's also interesting that the story of Wayland the Smith places Wayland's home in Finland, and he marries a swan maiden as well. And the cosmic egg you mentioned. Just so many things to analyze.