Message from @MatthewHeimbach

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2017-12-26 03:38:32 UTC  

I imagine it'll fizzle into nothingness soon enough.

2017-12-26 03:38:40 UTC  

thats my hope

2017-12-26 03:38:53 UTC  

I am tired of lame heretics taking t he title

2017-12-26 03:39:11 UTC  

id rather have 1% of the current "Christians" if they were all hardcore, instead of what we have today

2017-12-26 03:40:27 UTC  

How do actual Orthodox folk in Europe and Russia feel about Americans joining the church?

2017-12-26 03:40:37 UTC  

usually confused, then happy

2017-12-26 03:40:44 UTC  

Hahaha I'd imagine so.

2017-12-26 03:40:46 UTC  

they hate hipster faggots converting because its "exotic"

2017-12-26 03:40:51 UTC  

which is a big problem

2017-12-26 03:41:00 UTC  

ethnic parishes usually just mind their own business

2017-12-26 03:41:42 UTC  

and some now are filled with loser ameridox doofuses

2017-12-26 03:42:13 UTC  

but the thing is, Orthodoxy as a worldview and a religion, cant be even injured by those who dont actually practice the Faith

2017-12-26 03:42:25 UTC  

its literally basically impossible for doctrine to be changed, due to the Church Council System

2017-12-26 03:42:54 UTC  

Some bishops in America might be fucking lame, but they cant change the Faith

2017-12-26 03:43:10 UTC  

Interesting.

2017-12-26 03:43:24 UTC  

yeah we havent had a church council to clarify or change dogma in like 1200 years

2017-12-26 03:43:30 UTC  

The bible hasn't said anything new in a very long time. That was part of my issue years ago.

2017-12-26 03:43:47 UTC  

well the funny thing is, the bible is just a publication of the Church

2017-12-26 03:43:53 UTC  

We compiled it at the Council of Nicea

2017-12-26 03:43:58 UTC  

Sure

2017-12-26 03:44:01 UTC  

It was never supposed to be a stand alone document

2017-12-26 03:44:10 UTC  

its to be read and understood WITHIN the church

2017-12-26 03:44:40 UTC  

so without the church to ground you, youre just barreling off into the wilderness

2017-12-26 03:45:07 UTC  

Yeah

2017-12-26 03:46:36 UTC  

Growing up in the Pentecostal movement, i've seen how poorly interpreted scripture can ruin lives.

2017-12-26 03:46:51 UTC  

It just takes one jackass to ruin Christianity in protestantism

2017-12-26 03:46:57 UTC  

Each protestant pastor is his own Pope

2017-12-26 03:47:08 UTC  

In Orthodoxy, the clergy are held to hierarchy and tradition

2017-12-26 03:47:17 UTC  

Matt what was your religious tradition before Orthodoxy?

2017-12-26 03:47:22 UTC  

Catholic

2017-12-26 03:47:26 UTC  

oh ok

2017-12-26 03:47:30 UTC  

that makes sense

2017-12-26 03:47:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/395060145102520320/3326216373_dd22df1b35_z.jpg

2017-12-26 03:48:42 UTC  

My grand parents, while not terrible people, were convinced by the Word of Faith movement. Which was started by Kenneth Hagin.

2017-12-26 03:49:06 UTC  

lots of good people get led into some goofy stuff, my wife grew up Seventh Day Adventist Church of God

2017-12-26 03:49:28 UTC  

I've seen a lot of terrible things in the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement.

2017-12-26 03:49:58 UTC  

I even worked in a mega-church in my late teens.

2017-12-26 03:50:04 UTC  

Saw a lot of corruption there.

2017-12-26 03:50:17 UTC  

yeah, if clergy arent held to a vow of poverty, i instantly discount them tbh

2017-12-26 03:50:25 UTC  

Million dollar deals behind closed doors while the church members lived off welfare.

2017-12-26 03:50:44 UTC  

While asking the church members for more money.