Message from @Eulogy

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2017-11-10 01:58:26 UTC  

At this stage

2017-11-10 02:44:46 UTC  

So I was reading over the 25 points, and take issue with just one thing. In point 9 it states "expanded welfare and social service assistance for unwed mothers". I don't really see how this is pro-family, as it incentivizes single-motherhood, which is a great societal ill to every community. The current black community is an excellent example of this, though I understand that doesn't translate 1:1 with whites in terms of how it impacts each group

2017-11-10 02:45:22 UTC  

Single mothers shuold have their children removed from them and be sterilized

2017-11-10 02:45:47 UTC  

I don't know if I'd go that far, but we certainly shouldn't be encouraging and enabling them

2017-11-10 02:46:59 UTC  

Single mothers need to be turned into spawnpoints for the race war.

2017-11-10 02:48:06 UTC  

Might actually backfire as it seems men raised by single mothers are more often feminine and cucky, no offense to any who come from that background

2017-11-10 02:48:31 UTC  

Could it have meant single mothers as in, widowed mothers?

2017-11-10 02:48:52 UTC  

Unwed seems to mean never married in the first place

2017-11-10 02:49:07 UTC  

If widows was meant I'm not sure why they wouldn't say so

2017-11-10 02:49:15 UTC  

Yeah, that's what I figured.

2017-11-10 02:49:56 UTC  

But if you were to see working conditions improved and less zionist wars overseas there probably wouldn't be too many widows of childbearing age

2017-11-10 02:52:16 UTC  

I guess providing more support to widowed mothers

2017-11-10 02:52:21 UTC  

Not unwed/single/teen mothers

2017-11-10 02:52:24 UTC  

Teen mothers should be shot

2017-11-10 03:03:45 UTC  

Many unwed mothers exist because of deadbeat dads...

Obviously Point 9 will have guidelines, and I am sure feminist whores won't be getting the assistance that a single mother, whose mate ran off on her and her child, will be getting.

2017-11-10 03:07:44 UTC  

A white kid is always better than no white kid. Lebensborn anyone?

2017-11-10 03:08:01 UTC  

@Eulogy Hit me with that Himmler quote, you know the one.

2017-11-10 03:08:16 UTC  

I think this is all going to be on a case by case scenario.

2017-11-10 03:08:21 UTC  

In a later point (I forget which one) it talks about making divorce much harder to be had though. If they weren't divorced, this leaves only premarital sex. I don't think the state should promote premarital sex by de facto. If women choose to do so they should suffer the consequences of it, which will lead to much less of that going on. If the man however runs off, yes, she should get assistance.

But at the same time, there's a case to be argued that if there wasn't such a safety net women would be much more picky with their men, which would be better all-around.

2017-11-10 03:08:22 UTC  

I don't.

2017-11-10 03:08:31 UTC  

I know the Rohm quote.

2017-11-10 03:08:52 UTC  

"Only a few years ago illegitimate children were considered a shameful matter. In defiance of the existing laws I have systematically influenced the SS to consider children, irrespective of illegality or otherwise, the most beautiful, and best thing there is. The results - today my men tell me with shining eyes that an illegitimate son has been born to them. Their girls consider it an honour, not a source of shame, in spite of existing legal circumstances." - Heinrich Himmler, to Felix Kersten on Lebensborn

2017-11-10 03:09:28 UTC  

@Eulogy Is it the one about asses?

2017-11-10 03:09:35 UTC  

Yes.

2017-11-10 03:09:59 UTC  

At a certain point no white kid will be preferable to a child born out of wedlock though. This is all supposing an ethnostate where presumably we're not fighting for our survival

2017-11-10 03:10:06 UTC  

Hitler as chakravartin knew the eternal truth of A>T

2017-11-10 03:10:19 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/378380830537678849/quote-he-hitler-is-thinking-about-the-peasant-girls-when-they-stand-in-the-fields-and-bend-down-at-e.jpg

2017-11-10 03:11:25 UTC  

In certain circumstances to have a bastard is better, but in the kind of society we'd all like I think it would be preferable to have children within wedlock than promote children outside of wedlock

2017-11-10 03:12:45 UTC  

> preferable to have children within wedlock
No one argued otherwise. But you're gonna have a ton of bastards, even among just pure whites, it's just gonna happen and it's gonna be a factor.

2017-11-10 03:13:15 UTC  

I'm not denying that it will happen, but it will happen much more if you incentivize it via welfare

2017-11-10 03:13:22 UTC  

Personally I will have warbrides spanning Europe and America.

2017-11-10 03:13:33 UTC  

A white genghis khan.

2017-11-10 03:14:00 UTC  

A child born out of wedlock is a travesty, imo. That being said, the child should not have to suffer for the sins of his mother and father. Support would have to be given to single mothers (whose mate refuses to marry them), in order for the child to be raised properly. We must also remember that if the 25 Points came into power, the overall society will already be Traditional, or on its way to becoming such, so feminism and THOTs won't exist in the same manner they do now. Unwed mothers would be a rare thing, vs commonplace, as it is now.

2017-11-10 03:14:34 UTC  

If they're forced to struggle on their own as a result of their actions I think you'll find it happening much less than if they're supported to similar extents by the state as if they had a husband

2017-11-10 03:15:16 UTC  

I think thots will only not exist if you do not support and enable them tbh

2017-11-10 03:15:22 UTC  

Lebensborn II when?

2017-11-10 03:15:23 UTC  

Like I said, we will already have a Traditional society, so these matters won't be commonplace, due to social stigmas.

2017-11-10 03:15:46 UTC  

Via birth control, medical advancements regarding STD's, and financial assistance

2017-11-10 03:16:02 UTC  

Himmler encouraged SS officers to have children, legitimate or not

2017-11-10 03:16:12 UTC  

I am 100% against birth control...Jewish castration of our people.

2017-11-10 03:16:17 UTC  

That was within the context of fighting a world war, Hadrian