Message from @☦Colton of Yore☦

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2017-07-09 03:59:28 UTC  

I'm reading Alex Kurtagic's translation of The Golden Thread now. It's excellent. Jason T. is also doing one now, to be released the day of the eclipse as far as I know. Looking forward to comparing the two (or three if you count Jason's first translation.

2017-07-09 04:06:24 UTC  

Yeah, it's just one of those books you could and want to quote endlessly. But I'll spare you this time.

2017-07-09 04:07:31 UTC  

I'll have to concentrate some day to write an actual EH analysis of our myths as not to drown all the Discords I'm in in esotericism.

2017-07-09 04:07:57 UTC  

You really should.

2017-07-09 04:08:52 UTC  

Too bad, I guess you're going to miss the eclipse.

2017-07-09 04:09:15 UTC  

But you get to live in Finland so I guess that makes up for it.

2017-07-09 04:12:59 UTC  

I guess I'll live with it. I also got files of 100,000 (100k!) pagan spells and incantations. In print it's 34 volume book. I'm pretty much set for life.

2017-07-09 04:14:05 UTC  

I am unfamiliar with this. Can y'all give me some cliff notes ?

2017-07-09 04:14:40 UTC  

Can you be any more specific?

2017-07-09 04:14:42 UTC  

Wow, that's fascinating. I've read the Kalevala translated.

2017-07-09 04:15:01 UTC  

Cliffs notes, maybe Amorphis lyrics?

2017-07-09 04:15:28 UTC  

I am also not familiar with that haha

2017-07-09 04:15:41 UTC  

School me

2017-07-09 04:16:01 UTC  

Everyone knows the White Horse motif, but I'm fascinated by the Swan in Kalevala, it also had huge influence in Hinduism (Saraswati), and even in the Arthurian legend.

2017-07-09 04:16:35 UTC  

Lemminkäinen was cut into pieces and pieced back together like Osiris as he attempted to slay the swan crossing the river into the underworld. Reading up about swans in aryan mythology atm.

2017-07-09 04:16:37 UTC  

I feel like I'm talking to Aryan Pod People lol

2017-07-09 04:17:22 UTC  

So what do you wanna know, esoteric hitlerism, kalevala, etc?

2017-07-09 04:17:26 UTC  

Yeah I was talking about that white horse just recently. All world mythos lead to a singular truth.

2017-07-09 04:17:45 UTC  

Just a short briefing of it all.

2017-07-09 04:18:47 UTC  

Very interesting stuff, and I thought I was a bit of a scholar on this.

2017-07-09 04:18:48 UTC  

Very interesting stuff, and I thought I was a bit of a scholar on this.

2017-07-09 04:19:28 UTC  

Well, @Kombat-Unit is the only person in existence who could explain something like that in a single post in Discord, so I'll leave him to it.

2017-07-09 04:20:08 UTC  

I could quote Serrano himself about “Three fundamental positions of Esoteric Hitlerism". From Golden Thread, where else.

2017-07-09 04:22:01 UTC  

"The position that all of these concepts and narratives are purely symbolic for the inner processes of the soul towards liberation/transcendence

The position that these things are the “as above” equivalents for the real world “so below” concepts that do/did really exist, like Hyperborea and Atlantis, and this position drives people to establish a Golden Age on Earth (he associates Evola’s direction with this via Evola’s promotion of an esoteric order/aristocracy establishing an organic state and etc)

Lastly: “besides these two directions which seem to be different, there is also a third one, that contains the previous ones and reconciles them”

2017-07-09 04:22:52 UTC  

Well, might be still too esoteric.

2017-07-09 04:23:36 UTC  

To put it as simply as I can, all Aryans share a collective spirituality, and we have only forgotten our connection due to the corruption of blood memory. All our myths and faiths are the same, with only minor variations of different volksgeists.

2017-07-09 04:24:02 UTC  

Esoteric Hitlerism is about discovering this deep connection, and restoration of Golden Age.

2017-07-09 04:27:59 UTC  

That's perfect.

2017-07-09 04:29:54 UTC  

It's hard for me to explain some of that stuff to "Solid Earth" National Socialists. I spend so much time talking with the hollow earth subset.

2017-07-09 04:31:32 UTC  

God, Kalevala resonates so amazingly with Esoteric Hitlerism. "The Northland" was usually seen as the land of the dead. Much like Heracles, Lemminkäinen in the role of the god of war goes to "hades" to retreive his love and learns secrets during his journey. The water is also an important symbol. Water typically represents the passions and material existence. It represents transcendence above the crudely material, which is why figures walk on water in several myths. Also the leader of Finnish pagan rites was half-submerged in water as he made an offering to the Gods of air, symbolic meaning that hes a medium between the otherwordly and wordly. Also, the attempt to kill the swan crossing the river could be seen as an attempt to disrupt natural order, since swans represented the soul travelling from material world to the underworld, netherworld.

2017-07-09 04:31:39 UTC  

God, I could keep on doing this all day.

2017-07-09 04:32:32 UTC  

https://kansakunnanomaisuutta.fi/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/gallen-kallela-Aino_01.jpg

I really like this piece of Kalevala art, water motif. And also swastikas.

2017-07-09 04:34:11 UTC  

Also the part where Ilmarinen forges a wife out of Gold, and destroys her at the suggestion of Väinämöinen, and instead goes to the north, to the land of the dead, to seek a wife, and for a quest of wisdom, and eventually reclaims Sun and Moonlight stolen by the mistress of the north. It's just so heavy with symbolism I could keep going on and on.

2017-07-09 04:34:52 UTC  

That's amazing! I was just recently making the connection between EH and Kalevala. I was trying to explain the Cosmic Egg to someone...

2017-07-09 04:37:15 UTC  

You should really do some writing about the parallels there. I don't see it mentioned in anything I've read before. It's important, I think.

2017-07-09 04:38:14 UTC  

Smiths have allways been revered as magicians, wise men, the men bending the power of nature to their will utilizing all the elements. It's also interesting that the story of Wayland the Smith places Wayland's home in Finland, and he marries a swan maiden as well. And the cosmic egg you mentioned. Just so many things to analyze.

2017-07-09 04:40:53 UTC  

Also the thing Väinämöinen said of materialism resonates now as strongly as it did in the Bronze Age: "Magic brother, wonder-forger,
Throw the virgin to the furnace,
To the flames, thy golden image,
Forge from her a thousand trinkets.
Take the image into Ehstland,
Take her to the plains of Pohya,
That for her the mighty powers
May engage in deadly contest,
Worthy trophy for the victor;
Not for me this bride of wonder,
Neither for my worthy people.
I shall never wed an image
Born from many magic metals,
Never wed a silver maiden,
Never wed a golden virgin."
Then the hero of the waters
Called together all his people,
Spake these words of ancient wisdom:
"Every child of Northland, listen,
Whether poor, or fortune-favored:
Never bow before an image
Born of molten gold and silver:
Never while the sunlight brightens,
Never while the moonlight glimmers,
Choose a maiden of the metals,
Choose a bride from gold created
Cold the lips of golden maiden,
Silver breathes the breath of sorrow."

2017-07-09 04:44:45 UTC  

I love that. 💚I guess, being an EH and a metalsmith how could I not?

2017-07-09 04:46:54 UTC  

And I bet you do ❤