Message from @Dangerlurking
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So, it seems odd. In Donbass they talk about WW2 as the GPA, but they're still closer to NS than the people actually using NS imagery.
@FashyHillbilly I wonder when the big day will come when east ukraine get's annexed by russia, and ukraine declares it an act of war, but fails to do much about it.
I doubt that will happen, Putin sold out Donbass because he's also a Jewish puppet that won't really go to bat for his motherland.
They don't need to annex it
Its not their style
True, but seeing as how things have reached an uncomfortable stalemate, and donsekt as well as luhanks are not self-sufficent at all, I would have no doubt that they would be annexed soon.
setting up de facto governments that answer to them is better
@Hadrian Then why did russia annex crimean?
They had a better claim, Crimea was Russian until 57
Donbass has been part of the Soviet creation dubbed "Ukraine" since 1918
Holy fuck lmao
Its also strategically important
I didn’t realize maintaining territorial integrity is considered imperialism
there's a thicc natural gas pipeline that flows through it, and Sevastopol gives them control to the Black Sea
@FashyHillbilly To be fair ukraine did exist as a tiny kingdom in the middle ages....... before the khans came around and fucked them.
But I agree with you in that there is no true "ukraine".
The Ukraine is rightfully Russian Clay
>what even is the Cossacks
Ukraine having control over that pipeline is a choke point. Ukraine being in control of it makes sanctions against Russia crippling
Cossacks and tatars are spooks
they can be reapplied at any time
I wonder what would happen if the US forced turkey's hand to start blockading russian ships from going in and out of the black sea.....
Crimea has a lot of strategic importance to Russia
Putin was a smart jew, in that he recognized that obama is a pussy, and took a gambit at invading and annexing crimean, with the risk of causing a world war.\
Ukraine is facing Western Imperialism and Russian Imperialism simultaneously
I look at the uprising in Crimea as organic though, Putin just utilized it.
They are Russians, it was a national struggle
@FashyHillbilly It is doubtable.
Crimeans aren’t Russians lmao
They’re Tartars
There’s ethnic Russians there for sure
I don't think it was 100% engineered by Russia, but I do believe they did some sneaky shit to instigate it
But still
and then gave material support
They were historically part of the Russian state
They weren't forced into Ukraine until 57
By Khruschev
@Hadrian Well shit, that's what they have been doing in the middle east, as well as the US, in arming rebels and the government to fight each other, in order to give a clausius beli for the white man to become waker as well.
But you will notice that no side will ever fund a side they deem "too nazi" for them.
well yes, Russia is an inherently multiracial multicultural empire. They oppress their own ethnic naitonalists pretty hard