Message from @kriegsmariner VA

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2017-10-02 21:28:07 UTC  

"'National' and 'Social' are two identical conceptions. It was only the Jew who succeeded, through falsifying the social idea and turning it into Marxism, not only in divorcing the social idea from the national, but in actually representing them as utterly contradictory. That aim he has in fact achieved. At the founding of this Movement we formed the decision that we would give expression to this idea of ours of the identity of the two conceptions: despite all warnings, on the basis of what we had come to believe, on the basis of the sincerity of our will, we christened it 'National Socialist.' We said to ourselves that to be 'national' means above everything to act with a boundless and all-embracing love for the people and, if necessary, even to die for it. And similarly to be 'social' means so to build up the state and the community of the people that every individual acts in the interest of the community of the people and must be to such an extent convinced of the goodness, of the honorable straightforwardness of this community of the people as to be ready to die for it." - Adolf Hitler, speech of April 12th, 1922 in Munich.

2017-10-02 21:28:47 UTC  

"Why," I asked Hitler, "do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party programme is the very antithesis of that commonly accredited to socialism?"

"Socialism," he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, pugnaciously, "is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

"Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

"We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."

- Interview of Adolf Hitler by George Sylvester Viereck, took place in 1923. It was republished in Liberty magazine in July 1932.

"You cannot be a true nationalist without also being a socialist; you others cannot be true socialists without also being nationalists.

To be a nationalist means loving one's own people more than all others, and to work to be sure that it can hold its own among them. If this people is to hold its own against the rest of the world, I must wish and work for the health of each member, to see that things go as well as possible for each individual, and therefore the whole. But then I am a socialist!"

- Adolf Hitler

2017-10-02 21:29:12 UTC  

the socialism in natsoc was more so prussian socialism.

2017-10-02 21:30:08 UTC  

Yes but not just.

2017-10-02 21:30:58 UTC  

What's your actual complaint? Hitler made sure the lower class was uplifted and taken care of and employed fairly. More than fairly. More fairly treated overall than in ANY Bolshevik conception.

2017-10-02 21:31:05 UTC  

none at all

2017-10-02 21:31:17 UTC  

same goal different ways of acheiving so

2017-10-02 21:31:30 UTC  

Gregor Strasser got shot like a dog and Otto's only claim to fame is telling the jews bizarre sexual stories about Hitler post war.

2017-10-02 21:31:31 UTC  

Lol not really. Bolshevism is a failure.

2017-10-02 21:31:36 UTC  

http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/6794-fascist-economics-and-socialism-of-duty/

National Socialist socialism was also socialism of duty. Redpill yourself

2017-10-02 21:31:45 UTC  

i know

2017-10-02 21:32:07 UTC  

i didn't go straight from normie to nazbol

2017-10-02 21:32:26 UTC  

You're a NazBol?

2017-10-02 21:32:34 UTC  

NAZBOL GANG WOO WOO

2017-10-02 21:32:41 UTC  

and strasserism doesn't have shit in common with bolsheviks

2017-10-02 21:32:41 UTC  

(not nazbol just think the meme is funny)

2017-10-02 21:32:49 UTC  

yeah meme is cool

2017-10-02 21:33:04 UTC  

although i do really like 4pt

2017-10-02 21:33:07 UTC  

>Is nazbol
>"It isn't bol."

2017-10-02 21:33:20 UTC  

There's not even any meaningful Strasserist movement IRL, so I don't know what's the point in trying to make it a thing when there's National Socialist movement and the ideology is vastly superior to Strasser's subjectivized view of the race.

2017-10-02 21:33:21 UTC  

its a hyperbole for fuck sake

2017-10-02 21:33:56 UTC  

There's objectively nothing Strasser did better than Hitler.

2017-10-02 21:34:01 UTC  

which is why i say "basically" and "mostly" strasserite

2017-10-02 21:34:07 UTC  

Ideologically and more importantly, actually.

2017-10-02 21:34:27 UTC  

didn't matter what hitler believed in he was a god among men

2017-10-02 21:34:41 UTC  

Yes

2017-10-02 21:34:44 UTC  

Well ya boi wanted him dead.

2017-10-02 21:34:50 UTC  

And got shot in the neck.

2017-10-02 21:34:51 UTC  

That I cannot stress enough lol

2017-10-02 21:35:05 UTC  

yeah totally which is why there were so many strasserites in the nsdap

2017-10-02 21:35:16 UTC  

its not like a bunch of them got kristallnacht

2017-10-02 21:35:20 UTC  

Like a couple hundred lel

2017-10-02 21:35:46 UTC  

like goebbels

2017-10-02 21:36:00 UTC  

see this is twisted

2017-10-02 21:36:03 UTC  

When your marginal Bolshevik ideology has had less than 1000 followers ever, I mean.

2017-10-02 21:36:09 UTC  

Is it a thing?

2017-10-02 21:36:15 UTC  

i don't give a fuck about being popular

2017-10-02 21:36:34 UTC  

and i'm not going to fight anyone who shares my fascist worldview

2017-10-02 21:36:46 UTC  

You're everywhere my d00d.

2017-10-02 21:37:04 UTC  

Just be NS. No need to snowflake hipster elitist yourself.

2017-10-02 21:37:13 UTC  

Yall break up this little tea party and go say your prayers