Message from @Tedium

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2017-06-12 01:06:48 UTC  

"Vanguard America stands indomitably opposed to the tyranny of globalism and capitalism, a system under which nations are stripped of their heritage and their people are turned into nothing more than units of cheap, expendable labor."

2017-06-12 01:06:50 UTC  

In the leader's interview with Cantwell, he said he supported "free markets" in the sense of letting people start their own companies, and trade with money. But he said it would be controlled by the government in some capacity.

2017-06-12 01:07:21 UTC  

Much like Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany

2017-06-12 01:07:36 UTC  

So, certainly not "free markets" in the Libertarian sense

2017-06-12 01:07:57 UTC  

I guess it's more of a semantics thing

2017-06-12 01:08:06 UTC  

That's what I've found

2017-06-12 01:11:13 UTC  

k, got confused by the (((free market is not the enemy))) bit.

2017-06-12 01:11:51 UTC  

It's cool.

2017-06-12 01:12:10 UTC  

It's just usually the people making free market into a holy cow are huge jews.

2017-06-12 01:12:56 UTC  

Yeah, that's definitely true.

2017-06-12 01:13:40 UTC  

There was this good quote about fascist economics.

2017-06-12 01:13:43 UTC  

"Both Capitalism and Communism seek the same: material prosperity, but one seeks it through a loosely organized competitive free for all (hence the holy cow of the free market, liberal concept of the state not meddling in economics and so on) and the latter seeks it through a collective effort which demands a unified direction (hence the form of State Socialism with control of the means of production and distribution in the hands of the State, and the stateless Communism with those same means being directly in the hands of the collective itself with no middle man).

The goal of Capitalism is ultimately to work and make profit until such a point when you don't have to work, work is an obstacle to be overcome on the path to having material wealth that can be enjoyed and thus decadence sets in. The Bourgeoisie achieved this goal to the envy of the Proletariat that decided that it was robbed of its take and thus rose up to claim that wealth for itself. It is only logical that with the advancement of technology ideas like "fully automated luxury communism" would appear, proving Spengler right: Marx hated work, making him in that sense no different from capitalists, as that scenario is the dream of every capitalist as well."

2017-06-12 01:15:25 UTC  

Yockey and Spengler also wrote a ton of good stuff about socialism and how criticism of communism is ultimately criticism of capitalism.

2017-06-12 01:16:56 UTC  

They are flip sides of the same coin.

2017-06-12 01:17:57 UTC  

"Hence [Marx's] hatred of those who do not need to work. The socialism of a Fichte would accuse such people of sloth, it would brand them as irresponsible, dispensable shirkers and parasites. But Marxian instinct envies them. They are too well-off, and therefore they should be revolted against. Marx has inoculated his proletariat with a contempt for work." - Speng

2017-06-12 01:18:55 UTC  

Okay, last fucking esoteric quote: "Whereas people fulfilling their Personal Truth in their work, which is a calling, a vocation that is deeply necessary for their self-actualization, cannot and will never grow contemptuous of work, those who out of self-interest see work as an obstacle to material wealth and a gateway to decadence, can have nothing but contempt for work as a burden or unfortunate obstacle on the way to their goal. While capitalists achieve their goal, Communism looks at that result enviously and sees it as stolen goods, thus demanding a violent overturn to "rob the robbers". This again reinforces how Communism is a product of Capitalism and is rooted in entirely identical goals and mentality which is completely alien to Socialism of Duty. It also showcases exactly how an idea of "automated luxury communism" could come about, and why so many of the modern communists openly despise labor and stay away from it as far as possible, harping on the capitalist premise of modern society, while fully enjoying its benefits that were inasmuch their own goal as that of the capitalists they harp on."

2017-06-12 01:21:36 UTC  

@Tedium Okay, enough ideological sperging. Were there many VA dudes in sharia rallies

2017-06-12 01:22:08 UTC  

How did they go actually, I slept through the entire thing. Saw the spic oathcuck chimpout already tho

2017-06-12 01:55:34 UTC  

Yeah. We had a good showing.

2017-06-12 01:55:57 UTC  

A couple of the guys got jumped by antifa.

2017-06-12 02:14:24 UTC  

In another area

2017-06-12 02:23:47 UTC  

So?

2017-06-12 02:50:13 UTC  

They fought them off. Just a few bruises

2017-06-12 02:52:17 UTC  

👍

2017-06-12 03:01:50 UTC  

Fingers crossed, if the people can be pulled together there will be an improtu demo towards the end of july

2017-06-12 03:02:44 UTC  

Great, no more piggybacking off cucks.

2017-06-12 03:03:06 UTC  

what we're trying to pull off is something very european

2017-06-12 03:03:12 UTC  

basically, go to an indy11 soccer game

2017-06-12 03:03:16 UTC  

sit in the cheap seats

2017-06-12 03:03:23 UTC  

unveil Confederate battle flags

2017-06-12 03:03:31 UTC  

que White Power chants

2017-06-12 03:04:38 UTC  

👌 I've always been pushing ultras.

2017-06-12 03:05:22 UTC  

You'll probably get a warm reception.

2017-06-12 03:05:40 UTC  

well, antifa indianapolis uses indy11 as a central hub of theirs

2017-06-12 03:05:46 UTC  

hence why I got the idea in the first place

2017-06-12 03:06:37 UTC  

Either way, I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun. You'll probably get people along as they reach that aggressive buzz phase.

2017-06-12 03:07:23 UTC  

Helsinki ultras sometimes use a flag inspired by the confederate flag.

2017-06-12 03:09:05 UTC  

To my understanding the ultra scene in US is flatlining, great someone is breathing life into it.

2017-06-12 03:10:29 UTC  

This actually is a social experiment

2017-06-12 03:10:42 UTC  

honestly, so far the only people coming are dudes from out of state