Message from @Fash Dragon

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2017-12-21 03:29:58 UTC  

Just trying to understand

2017-12-21 03:30:35 UTC  

Their idea of socialism is quite different from ours

2017-12-21 03:30:44 UTC  

That's a failure of the English language

2017-12-21 03:30:48 UTC  

^

2017-12-21 03:31:00 UTC  

There's no good way to concisely explain complex ideas

2017-12-21 03:31:14 UTC  

German is a great language for that tbh

2017-12-21 03:31:40 UTC  

Great language in general.

2017-12-21 03:32:02 UTC  

People who say it's an ugly language are fools

2017-12-21 03:32:19 UTC  

Familiarize them with Wagner

2017-12-21 03:32:27 UTC  

Oughta change their minds real quick

2017-12-21 03:33:17 UTC  

The most beautiful language is Finnish

2017-12-21 03:33:17 UTC  

The funny thing is, the communists say the movement was inherently capitalist, and the capitalists say we are socialists and the socialists say we are Capitalists or the reverse of communism and nothing more

2017-12-21 03:33:20 UTC  

Prove me wrong

2017-12-21 03:33:39 UTC  

None of them can give me a straight answer

2017-12-21 03:33:53 UTC  

It's a third position

2017-12-21 03:34:03 UTC  

It rejects both communism and capitalism

2017-12-21 03:34:40 UTC  

It is socialist in that there are many programs to benefit the common people, protect the workers, etc

2017-12-21 03:34:55 UTC  

But at the same time it supports free Enterprise

2017-12-21 03:35:20 UTC  

Because it is understood that free people do not work without incentive

2017-12-21 03:35:33 UTC  

Such as the nationalization of certain industries critical to the nation of people?

2017-12-21 03:35:39 UTC  

I hope that's a good enough answer

2017-12-21 03:35:40 UTC  

Or

2017-12-21 03:35:46 UTC  

Yeah kinda

2017-12-21 03:36:36 UTC  

Personally I like the idea of industries which are nationalized with free market alternatives

2017-12-21 03:36:51 UTC  

I think the postal service in the US is a good example

2017-12-21 03:37:06 UTC  

Or the water systems

2017-12-21 03:37:17 UTC  

Exactly

2017-12-21 03:37:25 UTC  

Ahh ok

2017-12-21 03:37:34 UTC  

I think any essential service should have free market alternatives personally

2017-12-21 03:37:34 UTC  

Free Enterprise and Capitalism are not synonyms

2017-12-21 03:37:52 UTC  

What's the difference?

2017-12-21 03:38:14 UTC  

Free enterprise is kinda the natural mode of operation for people

2017-12-21 03:38:16 UTC  

No bulli I'm new

2017-12-21 03:38:33 UTC  

How so?

2017-12-21 03:38:59 UTC  

It's based on incentive.

2017-12-21 03:39:12 UTC  

People want to eat. People want homes

2017-12-21 03:39:22 UTC  

People acquire resources to meet these needs

2017-12-21 03:39:49 UTC  

And they do so of their own accord. That's free enterprise to my understanding

2017-12-21 03:40:14 UTC  

So is there any possibility for free enterprise and the National good to come into conflict?

2017-12-21 03:40:15 UTC  

Capitalism takes it up a few extra levels. It allows for a lot more exploitation

2017-12-21 03:40:41 UTC  

Does anyone else care to jump in? I'm not the best at economics