Schoep, Spencer and Heimbach in Charlottesville, c 2017

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/futb_all/16210681/650621/650621_original.jpg

tfw you could have used her to make like a trillion lampshades but didnt grab the body in time

i've long avoided joining a org like TWP

or Patriot Front

just to have a bit of freedom to float around

and not get doxxed lol

now I'm feeling like I should

Heimbach has a new Facebook?

have'nt seen it

whats the big diff between TWP and Patriot Front?

isn't that just Vanguard America rebranded

PF is an offshoot of VA from what I understand

there was some internal drama in VA iirc, some guys split off

@Der Jäger Patriot Front is led by an 18 years old and they're on that American Nationalism rebrand wagon, removed references to fascism and try to be normie friendly. Like Identity Evropa lite.

I still kinda like them

Vanguard are NatSoc

Patriot Front are gay

they get some good attention

PF split because that 18 years old Asperger's was getting along with no one, I was following the drama from since the first split, shit is cringeworthy. I'd stay away.

I'd heard something came out about one of the leaders being involved with some degeneracy, split was over that, though admittedly I haven't been following it much

VA always seemed pointless to me

How so?

And in their first and only demo video he just goes on about some American freedumps without mentioning anything that matters like the jews or race or anything. American nationalism is bland & gay, 0/5 would not support.

Kinda seemed like TWP under a different banner, filled the same niche

just from a cursory glance

openly fascist, similar aesthetic

I see what you are saying, why 'compete' with TWP and not just merge.

Yea, exactly, but I'd never seen anything with VA that made me want to join them

One of the leaders was ousted for publicly posting some pedophile anime shit, VA has constantly gone through splits and new leaders. VA has become constantly more nazi I guess, they used to countersignal and post in twitter how "classical fascism" =/= Nazism, but now they all seem to be on board of nazism, except the patriotards led by the kid who split off with PF.

Haven't seen any prominent figures from them similar to Heimbach that would draw people to them

Not to shit on VA or anything, they're probably fine people, always just came off as redundant to me

I hear you. I can't personally get inspired by the optics wars or group vs. group drama. If Patriot Front, which I am not a member of, gets lots of media attention that advances the cause of whites in our country, I am all for it. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that.

Agreed

I've never liked the whole optics debate much. They can do their americana thing, and if it works to advance our broader interests, great, just don't shit on other groups for doing something different as much of the optics cucks have done

They do seem to get some good attention. I don't have to like American Nationalism to respect that

The point with the optics war is that they're trying the old as fuck method of rebranding ethnic nationalism as patriotism, even Rockwell had to denounce that, we could have saved them the trouble of running a failing org for a few years before it collapses if even that, but some people are just immune to advice. They'll come over after they fail if they're serious about activism.

Why do we have to 'denounce' them because they like different colors and pants? I understand not wanting to participate, but why should I actively seek to discourage them?

nationalism is patriotism...but not exactly the ethnic part as America knows it.

everyone has been raised to view america as a melting pot

of many races

BUT