Message from @DOLBATIC
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sounds like there is an OG here
this is a nice little intro
oh cool. can you find TCoS online? I had trouble
Idk
It's in 2 volumes
word. oh wow
ok i found it
but
do you understand french
hahaha
no sir
I should I guess, only german
rip
clouscard is really not known at all
There might be an english translation, but a free pdf is pushing it
word ill check the libraries
cheers
five sure. also check out comments on society of the spectacle if you haven't yet I love that one
And it also contributed to the conversion of pre-1970s capitalism into global liberalism
thats definitely not wrong, but I think the comments are way better than the original book
and from the original, I love the phrase on page one: "the liar has lied to himself" very strong image to me
I like to compare it to descartes evil demon, and i think-> instead of thinking the demon is tricking you, what if you are the demon, tricking yourself?
I love this idea so much
Well, actually, I found an article Clouscard wrote on Baudrillard
French though
Je mappele gay
Wait no
@nagarjuna Even if that article is mostly yet another critique of Baudrillard
@DOLBATIC that looks awesome I'm just an insufferable JB sycophant because I haven't read more haha. His writing is super contradictory so the parts I like are contradicted by other parts haha. My aim isn't to rep him so much as bring him up because that's where my thoughts are, wanna move forward
I see JB kind of in the skeptical tradition, which I really enjoy. The problem of how to apply skepticism politically is the huge problem but one I want to confront
He's seeing Baudrillard as the quintessence of modern bourgeois thought, which he claims no longer ignores class struggle (as in the case of Valéry and Alain) but simply recuses it without refuting it
"hypocritical innocence"
Baudrillard, to him, is a good example of the transition of the Zeitgeist ever since the 1968 "Libération"
Which would be a gnoseological regression
His main point is that Sartre, who accepts class struggle but encloses it into intellectual bourgeois leftism, is at the source of this transition
Prioiritizing the transcendental ego over class struggle
Yes I think that's a common view. Baudrillard visited Japan one time and people there said "we don't need you anymore because your thought is just how things are now"