Message from Corset in /leftypol/ International #english_theory


2017-05-22 06:40:29 UTC  

Question: what is the communist relationship with music and how should it be formed?

"Every artist, everyone who considers himself an artist, has the right to create freely according to his ideal, independently of everything. However, we are Communists and we must not stand with folded hands and let chaos develop as it pleases. We must systemically guide this process and form its result." - Lenin

2017-05-22 06:42:37 UTC  

@Deleted User why do you ask questions on which you know the answers?

2017-05-22 06:43:38 UTC  

@Corset Do I?

2017-05-22 06:43:49 UTC  
2017-05-22 06:44:04 UTC  

I was listening to classical and thinking: is this bourgeois?

2017-05-22 06:44:59 UTC  

Every matter is to be transformed but some will stay in history some will not.

2017-05-22 06:45:05 UTC  

Classics did stay

2017-05-22 06:45:08 UTC  

for a reason

2017-05-22 06:45:37 UTC  

What reason?

2017-05-22 06:46:16 UTC  

Quality

2017-05-22 06:46:43 UTC  

Of its time

2017-05-22 06:47:51 UTC  

@Deleted User you know the reaction of most people on Soviet art, right?

2017-05-22 06:48:05 UTC  

@Corset It's pretty?

2017-05-22 06:48:23 UTC  
2017-05-22 06:49:06 UTC  

@Deleted User We are just to enjoy it really. As a little extra.

2017-05-22 06:49:42 UTC  

Actually, it is really good.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314649062928547840/316105325008781312/young-steel-workers.jpg

2017-05-22 06:50:19 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314649062928547840/316105480827306005/Enable-_Secondary_3.jpg

2017-05-22 06:50:27 UTC  

Quality is important at all times.

2017-05-22 06:50:45 UTC  

Unless it is quantity.

2017-05-22 06:50:51 UTC  

or a measure.

2017-05-22 06:51:19 UTC  

I see.

2017-05-22 06:51:50 UTC  

@Deleted User what do you see?

2017-05-22 06:52:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314649062928547840/316105979702018049/14809463854160.gif

2017-05-22 06:52:31 UTC  

I would like to know why it is quality. Because it expresses realism over impressionism?

2017-05-22 06:52:55 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314649062928547840/316106133360345089/khcnlx83.jpg

2017-05-22 06:53:37 UTC  

Any quality can be taken outside of its time. The best might stay.

2017-05-22 06:54:24 UTC  

For a time

2017-05-22 06:54:31 UTC  

You mean that the best qualities are enduring? They survive the dialectal process? They survive like in evolution?

2017-05-22 06:55:34 UTC  

@Deleted User of course. The best qualities are not even qualities. They are the essence.

2017-05-22 06:56:35 UTC  

Essence? (I am newish to diamat)

2017-05-22 06:57:17 UTC  
2017-05-22 06:57:36 UTC  

@Deleted User essence is a dialectical matter.

2017-05-22 06:57:40 UTC  

It changes

2017-05-22 06:57:44 UTC  

all the time

2017-05-22 06:57:56 UTC  

But stays

2017-05-22 06:58:00 UTC  

at the same time

2017-05-22 06:59:36 UTC  

OK, so how come we have such shitty art and music nowadays (in general)? Is it because the subjective is a reflection of the objective, and those in the capitalist system are infected with a 'class virus', and thus reflected poorly on the art they produce?

2017-05-22 07:00:31 UTC  

@Deleted User the profit motive of the creation of the quality is a pure perversion of all things.

2017-05-22 07:00:55 UTC  

Wow, that makes a lot of sense.

2017-05-22 07:02:04 UTC  

Is a pure destruction of quality.