Message from @Builderelf

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2018-01-24 02:29:33 UTC  

plus, its a justified heirarchy, because it's, well, directly democratic

2018-01-24 02:29:41 UTC  

id say so

2018-01-24 02:29:57 UTC  

Heirarchy is non existant in the eyes of anarchists, because they see it as oppression.

2018-01-24 02:30:06 UTC  

but nowadays trade unions kinda plummited in quality and popularity after the dang old 1930s or so

2018-01-24 02:30:22 UTC  

Well I wonder why that might be.

2018-01-24 02:30:29 UTC  

no, heirarchy is real, and its everywhere, anarchists just wanna get rid of unjustified heirarchy

2018-01-24 02:30:43 UTC  

Probably because stalin had them all murdered or thrown in a concrete hole in the ground.

2018-01-24 02:31:11 UTC  

@Builderelf I didn't say that it didn't exist, but most anarchists will come to a conclusion that hierarchy is a form of oppression and everybody is equal.

2018-01-24 02:31:13 UTC  

in my opinion, trade unions dropped off after the 1930s (especially in the US) after some reforms were earned and WW2 came around, so anarchism and trade unionism became a thing of the psat

2018-01-24 02:31:15 UTC  

At least from what I have seen.

2018-01-24 02:31:36 UTC  

"Heirarchy is non existant in the eyes of anarchists"

2018-01-24 02:31:41 UTC  

u did lol

2018-01-24 02:31:47 UTC  

but your revised statement is true

2018-01-24 02:31:56 UTC  

i guess you just mistyped, it happens to us all

2018-01-24 02:31:59 UTC  

😉

2018-01-24 02:32:15 UTC  

sorry who did stalin have murdered and thrown in a concrete hole

2018-01-24 02:32:23 UTC  

@Builderelf I said that it didn't exist in the eyes of anarchists.

2018-01-24 02:32:34 UTC  

I didn't state that I personally believed it didn't exist.

2018-01-24 02:32:58 UTC  

meh, I still think anarchists see heirarchy everywhere

2018-01-24 02:33:04 UTC  

@Onlyinmizzou Too many to count.

2018-01-24 02:33:15 UTC  

you can see lots of us anarchists going on and on about unjustified heirarchy

2018-01-24 02:33:17 UTC  

@Builderelf You think, but how do you know?

2018-01-24 02:33:21 UTC  

so i mean, we think its real tho

2018-01-24 02:33:44 UTC  

Again, how do you know it's real?

2018-01-24 02:33:57 UTC  

oof, are we gonna talk philosophy now?

2018-01-24 02:34:05 UTC  

And what is such a thing as a "justified hierarchy"?

2018-01-24 02:34:05 UTC  

because then we'll start asking what "real" is

2018-01-24 02:34:08 UTC  

itll get messy

2018-01-24 02:34:30 UTC  

@Builderelf We would be beating around the bush if we did that.

2018-01-24 02:34:32 UTC  

a justified heirarchy? a direct democracy, where the people give *direct* power to a position

2018-01-24 02:34:49 UTC  

are you a newfag or something dude

2018-01-24 02:34:59 UTC  

don't just smear important and successful communists

2018-01-24 02:35:06 UTC  

@Builderelf Now wait a minute.

2018-01-24 02:35:08 UTC  

exactly @Deleted User, thats why id prefer not to argue about if heirarchies are real or not, because we both agree that they are real

2018-01-24 02:35:32 UTC  

I have seen many, many, anarchists claim that all people in power, be them democratically elected or not, are still oppressors.

2018-01-24 02:35:33 UTC  

also @Onlyinmizzou who are u calling a newfag?

2018-01-24 02:35:41 UTC  

my man rex collis

2018-01-24 02:35:45 UTC  

cuz i kinda am, i just joined this server yesterday lel

2018-01-24 02:35:53 UTC  

@Onlyinmizzou I have been here since last january.

2018-01-24 02:35:54 UTC  

so if anything call me a newfag

2018-01-24 02:36:02 UTC  

thats a full year wow