I came across it before, i just saw kaiserriech after

but from what I understand, it sounds like labor cartels are a way to regionally group trade unions, and said labor cartels would organize things like:
1. How much of x resource we need to produce

2. education/propaganda

3. Class unity

which is pretty broad, and a little weird to me

Sounds like something that would fall apart within less than a week.

yeah, i could see that

the trade unions just provide more stability than the cartles

in my opinion at least

like I agree that said unions need to federate, but these cartels are too general and too hard to organize I think

Would a trade union provide more stability than a drug cartel? That remains to be seen.

I guess thats debatable

And, good luck getting anarchists to centralize with no incentive.

but im in favor of the trade unions

i mean, anarchists love some direct democracy, i think thats incentive enough

and by making a directly democratic federation, itll provide more stability to the anarchist society while keeping the freedom

The fact that a warlord who only operates off of drugs and oppression, can provide more stability than a trade union is a god damn shame.

plus, its a justified heirarchy, because it's, well, directly democratic

id say so

Heirarchy is non existant in the eyes of anarchists, because they see it as oppression.

but nowadays trade unions kinda plummited in quality and popularity after the dang old 1930s or so

Well I wonder why that might be.

no, heirarchy is real, and its everywhere, anarchists just wanna get rid of unjustified heirarchy

Probably because stalin had them all murdered or thrown in a concrete hole in the ground.

@Builderelf I didn't say that it didn't exist, but most anarchists will come to a conclusion that hierarchy is a form of oppression and everybody is equal.

in my opinion, trade unions dropped off after the 1930s (especially in the US) after some reforms were earned and WW2 came around, so anarchism and trade unionism became a thing of the psat

At least from what I have seen.

"Heirarchy is non existant in the eyes of anarchists"

u did lol

but your revised statement is true

i guess you just mistyped, it happens to us all

😉

sorry who did stalin have murdered and thrown in a concrete hole

@Builderelf I said that it didn't exist in the eyes of anarchists.

I didn't state that I personally believed it didn't exist.

meh, I still think anarchists see heirarchy everywhere

@Onlyinmizzou Too many to count.

you can see lots of us anarchists going on and on about unjustified heirarchy

@Builderelf You think, but how do you know?

so i mean, we think its real tho

Again, how do you know it's real?