Message from @Builderelf

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2018-01-24 02:40:08 UTC  

Are you fucking 7?

2018-01-24 02:40:58 UTC  

no im joking lel

2018-01-24 02:41:04 UTC  

itsa gooda meme

2018-01-24 02:41:42 UTC  

but for real tho, i guess I am tunnel visioned, because I'm still kinda new to the far-left. I only became an An-Synd in, like, September.

2018-01-24 02:41:57 UTC  

and I've been reading what I can get my hands on, but there's still plenty I don't know

2018-01-24 02:42:22 UTC  

but hell, at least im not a bernie sanders normie

2018-01-24 02:43:02 UTC  

While we are here, let me ask the question.... What is an an-synd's view on the changing demographics, specifically, more gays, trannies, whatever you want to call them, and the growth of blacks and hispanics, along with the shrinking of the white population.

2018-01-24 02:43:26 UTC  

@Deleted User Honestly I have no idea, never heard that part. I know Marx didn't differentiated between socialism and communism and it's his followers that did, seeing socialism as a step towards communism. Marxist definition (of which there are many more) of socialism is worker's ownership of the means of production which never has even been achieved all together and would exclude like 70% of leftist movements from being socialist.
The syndicalists from Kaiserreich are statist syndicalists, in the mod they replaced communists as the leading leftist tendency. Some of their historical representatives are Georges Sorel.

2018-01-24 02:43:47 UTC  

@National Trotskyist Never heard of what part?

2018-01-24 02:44:12 UTC  

@Deleted User Of your quote about Lenin. "Didn't lenin say at one point that all socialists were inheriently communists?"

2018-01-24 02:44:24 UTC  

Ah.

2018-01-24 02:44:24 UTC  

Polish socialists were anti-communists.

2018-01-24 02:44:37 UTC  

i mean, most of an-synd rhetoric is economic, with some political aspects with forming our directly-democratic federation, so social aspects like that aren't nearly a big deal. Personally though, I don't have much of an opinion, I don't see why a changing demographic is that big of a deal.

2018-01-24 02:44:58 UTC  

now if you were, say, a strasserist, or part of the nazbol gang thats a different story

2018-01-24 02:45:01 UTC  

@Builderelf It's a very big deal, because it changes the very way that society will operate.

2018-01-24 02:45:16 UTC  

@National Trotskyist And then stalin came along and changed most of that.

2018-01-24 02:45:37 UTC  

it might change the way that cultures operate and what kind of cultural values are in play, but I doubt that a few demographic changes can reshape society as a whole

2018-01-24 02:45:47 UTC  

i mean, most societal reconstructions come from science

2018-01-24 02:45:49 UTC  

@Builderelf And, for an ANARCHIST belief, it is very much political, since you will be destroying the state, and decentralizing EVERYTHING.

2018-01-24 02:46:09 UTC  

for instance, the industrail and agricultural revolutions

2018-01-24 02:46:43 UTC  

industrial*

2018-01-24 02:46:43 UTC  

if i can make a modest recommendation i would say just read and learn shit from talking to other people rather than looking to brand yourself with a certain ideology

2018-01-24 02:46:48 UTC  

not to be a radical centrist or whatever

2018-01-24 02:46:51 UTC  

jesus christ my spelling

2018-01-24 02:46:59 UTC  

@Builderelf Does that not mean that blacks, asians, whites, and native americans behave differently?

2018-01-24 02:47:05 UTC  

just cause it becomes kinda identitarian idk

2018-01-24 02:47:20 UTC  

Personally I disagree with the totalitarian methods of communists (it's illegal to preach such views in Poland alongside fascism and nazism) and don't desire a "moneyless, stateless" society as end goal. Because it sounds as utopian as anarchism and impossible to achieve.

2018-01-24 02:47:26 UTC  

@Onlyinmizzou That is going to give you a tunnel visioned view if you do that.

2018-01-24 02:47:46 UTC  

how so

2018-01-24 02:47:51 UTC  

lol I know, I try my best to talk to people but I'm the most radical guy at my school tbh, and everybody talks to *me* about the far-left, so I personally dont have any good local sources to learn about the far left because others rely on me as said source

2018-01-24 02:48:06 UTC  

@National Trotskyist Reminds me of that one anarchist we had here a while ago who proposed to replace currency with "LABOR VOUCHERS", we laughed him out of the server.

2018-01-24 02:48:14 UTC  

Lmao

2018-01-24 02:48:16 UTC  

but if u know a good way to talk/meet up with anarchists etc. that would be great @Onlyinmizzou

2018-01-24 02:48:30 UTC  

Khmer Rouge had some experience with abolishing money, maybe he should have listened to them.

2018-01-24 02:48:45 UTC  

wtf is wrong with labour vouchers

2018-01-24 02:48:57 UTC  

@National Trotskyist Yhea, it isn't like they had to drag everybody out into the jungles and executed them for doing trivial things such as picking berries.

2018-01-24 02:49:08 UTC  

also @Deleted User I did imply that different races act differently through different cultures, but I doubt that having a different culture take control would call for a radical reconstruction of society at large

2018-01-24 02:49:12 UTC  

I think thats a bit of a leap

2018-01-24 02:49:19 UTC  

@Builderelf Not culturally, but by their nature.

2018-01-24 02:49:39 UTC  

@Builderelf i grew up with some people who became leftists and we talk and I read theory, apart from that I occasionally go to local PSL meetings. I got nothing when it comes to non-idpol local anarchists

2018-01-24 02:49:42 UTC  

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