Message from @F0X~{A Walker}
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See I don't actually know tbh. I've thought about this one a lot. IMO that's discrimination but at the same time
Hence private institution not public one which has publicly traded stocks
what if they wanted a nazi wedding cake
I mean of course you can't compare gay couples to nazis
But if someone legitimately believes that making a wedding cake for a gay couple is against their beliefs
They're wrong, they're dumb, but I guess that's legitimately their belief
To answer your other question, I think there's definitely a place for private institutions in the world. I don't think institutions and corporations should be treated as people though. The government should have the power to prevent corporations from depriving people of their rights or essential human needs
I believe there is a difference between not making a cake for a nazi and a gay wedding
There is good reason to refuse the gay wedding cake
Not the nazi cake
???
You think there's more reason to refuse a gay wedding cake than a nazi cake?
Yes
Nazi cake is a cake for ideology, something that can be altered somewhat.
Being gay is not something you can choose.
Gayness isn't an ideology
Yes it can be chosen to act upon
Ok so you'd rather gay people be closeted?
You can be attracted to the same sex doesn't mean you have to act upon it.
When a married man in the street sees a pretty girl that isn't his wife he has a tendency to desire her but he holds himself back
Just because you have a tendency to do something doesn't mean you should always act upon it
Acting upon it is a choice
A choice many disagree with
Desiring the same sex is ok
But once it leads to gay marital relations then that's a problem
Umm no. Says who?
I may not like how gays have sex but nothing I can do about it. I still refuse to call it marriage
Because it isn't marriage but a corruption of it
Says who? Why do you decide what is and is not marriage?
It doesn't hurt anyone.
Societies have fallen partially because of that reason
Source?
Rome Greece
Show me the correlation between the fall of Rome and Greece and homosexuality being accepted
Literature
History books
No show me evidence that acceptance of homosexuality in Rome and Greece led the fall of those civilizations
The point of marriage wasn't for lust
It's decreased morality