Message by Der Jäger, in tradworker, #health_and_training

John Mosby 2018-01-25 18:56:31

The gym is fine and all, but if you don't know how to fight, those muscles are a complete waist, and working-out becomes nothing more than a sign of physical insecurity.

GenZ_88 2018-01-25 18:57:10

Well you need the strength to effectively fight.

John Mosby 2018-01-25 18:57:17

Not really...

John Mosby 2018-01-25 18:58:21

Judo and BJJ fighters try to keep their bulk down, as do a lot of other fighters.

Some of the best fighters I trained with were in the 150-170 range.

GenZ_88 2018-01-25 18:58:42

Well you can be very strong at those weights

fassel 2018-01-25 18:59:16

Having the strength and an intimidating presence is absolutely beneficial in a street fight. Even a smaller guy who has obvious muscle tone and lifts will have a large psychological advantage

GenZ_88 2018-01-25 18:59:28


John Mosby 2018-01-25 18:59:49

Im not discrediting strength training, by any means.

Im just hoping that our goys are lifting weights AND doing some form a martial art training.

GenZ_88 2018-01-25 19:00:13

That's reasonable

John Mosby 2018-01-25 19:00:46

If they had to choose between the two, I'd tell them join a MMA gym before joining a regular gym.

GenZ_88 2018-01-25 19:02:00

How many dead hang pull ups can you do. Push-ups etc

Beastcoast 2018-01-25 19:04:37


Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:15:10

hell yeah glad to see you guys jumping in FUK YEAH

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:15:39

exactly what Mosby said...MMA gym first, regular gym second

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:15:43

but be prepared

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:15:47

shit is going to cost.

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:16:09

i spend $90 for two days a week of boxing/jkd/muay thai but it is worth it

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:16:27

i feel confident/not cocky when I'm faced with aggression

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:16:58

technique over mucles all day

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:17:19

when I first stepped in an MMA gym...KMAA in Knoxville I was deadlifting 420 and benching 260

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:17:26

thought I was hot owned by a 5'4 female

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:18:07

never underestimate your enemy...the guy who looks skinny might have been doing BJJ for 10 years straight and will put you down

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:18:25

the bulked up dude might get dropped with a right cross, left hook, elbow

GenZ_88 2018-01-25 19:18:59

Or you end up grappling and get symbolically raped.

GenZ_88 2018-01-25 19:19:26

Always do both train the muscle and the skill.

GenZ_88 2018-01-25 19:20:13

In wrestling the strongest and most aggressive will always win.

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:22:23

yup...and here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:22:26

this guy Dan Baker

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:22:30

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:22:35

might not look like much

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:22:52

but he's a BJJ Master and bodyguard for the leader of Tallahasee antifa

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 19:23:16

GenZ_88 2018-01-25 19:31:41

He's nothing compared to our best.

JCAdams 2018-01-25 19:45:59

@Der Jäger good to know. I'll make sure our guys are informed for the rally this weekend. anymore Tallahassee intel?

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 20:04:40

@JCAdams check your PM

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 20:05:43

@GenZ_88 Just don't let him get you on the ground...then you're fuked. Personally unless its strickly one on one with rules and sheet, I prefer to stand up any day

Der Jäger 2018-01-25 20:06:03

grounding and grappling in a crowd of who knows who is dangerous af