Message from @Mr. X

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2018-03-28 21:23:25 UTC  

UK sure

2018-03-28 21:23:29 UTC  

Yes you did, when you were a part of Great Britain you obeyed British law

2018-03-28 21:23:37 UTC  

Which was imprisonmnet

2018-03-28 21:23:37 UTC  

@Deleted User Sure killed them

2018-03-28 21:23:42 UTC  

Imprisonment*

2018-03-28 21:23:48 UTC  

No we didnt

2018-03-28 21:23:52 UTC  

Stalin did not personally kill or order the deaths of homosexuals.

2018-03-28 21:23:53 UTC  

that was the UK government

2018-03-28 21:23:56 UTC  

who made the laws

2018-03-28 21:24:01 UTC  

Yes which included Ireland

2018-03-28 21:24:15 UTC  

and who were our government and controlled our police force

2018-03-28 21:24:29 UTC  

Yes under the UK government

2018-03-28 21:24:44 UTC  

When were independent I dont think we jailed gays for being gay

2018-03-28 21:24:51 UTC  

@Deleted User Yes he did

2018-03-28 21:25:07 UTC  

@Mr. X Really? Have you any proof? No, you don't. Because there isn't any.

2018-03-28 21:25:32 UTC  

Btw Mr E Ireland only decriminalised same sex activity in 1993

2018-03-28 21:25:44 UTC  

So suck my big dick

2018-03-28 21:26:14 UTC  

Stalin wasn't a saint but he sure as hell wasn't the sociopathic murderer you're making him out to be.

2018-03-28 21:26:41 UTC  

The guy was a poet ffs.

2018-03-28 21:26:56 UTC  

In 1933, the Soviet government under the leadership of Joseph Stalin recriminalised homosexual activity with punishments of up to five years' hard labor. Following Stalin's death, there was a liberalisation of attitudes toward sexual issues in the Soviet Union, but homosexual acts remained illegal

2018-03-28 21:27:18 UTC  

Oh considering how much stalin discriminated against people I think he would've

2018-03-28 21:27:22 UTC  

horseshoe theory n all

2018-03-28 21:27:33 UTC  

@Suleiman brb fact checking again

2018-03-28 21:27:41 UTC  

Horseshoe theory is bullshit

2018-03-28 21:27:42 UTC  

Again

2018-03-28 21:27:50 UTC  

Politics isn’t 1 dimensional

2018-03-28 21:28:28 UTC  

It’s not a single line it’s an XY axis

2018-03-28 21:28:34 UTC  

Yeah, that was purely political and due to low birth rates. That decision was also influenced by the limited scientific knowledge of the day regarding homosexuality. He never personally expressed any malice toward homosexuals and he worked with old Bolsheviks who were openly gay. Also, just because it was "recriminalized" doesn't mean the government didn't turn a blind eye more often than not.

2018-03-28 21:29:31 UTC  

@Deleted User You don’t even really need to defend it because Mr E is a patriot and his own country has historically been less than friendly towards gays

2018-03-28 21:29:33 UTC  

@Suleiman **Jesus fucking christ, you have been on here for 7 hours straight, how are you not even bored yet?**

2018-03-28 21:29:37 UTC  

So he can’t take the moral high ground

2018-03-28 21:29:50 UTC  

@Deleted User got nothing to do

2018-03-28 21:29:59 UTC  

I’ve just been looking at internships all day

2018-03-28 21:30:01 UTC  

For summer

2018-03-28 21:30:01 UTC  

And to make it seem as though he was the sole decision maker and didn't have a council of advisors is patently absurd.

2018-03-28 21:30:06 UTC  

Same-sex sexual activity was decriminalised in 1993. This was the result of a campaign by Senator David Norris and the Campaign for Homosexual Law Reform which led to a ruling in 1988 that Irish laws prohibiting male homosexual activities were in contravention of the European Convention on Human Rights. The Campaign for Homosexual Law Reform was founded in the 1970s to fight for the decriminalisation of male homosexuality, its founding members including Senator Norris and future Presidents of Ireland Mary McAleese and Mary Robinson. Prior to 1993, certain laws dating from the nineteenth century rendered male homosexual acts illegal. The relevant legislation was the 1861 Offences Against the Person Act, and the 1885 Criminal Law (Amendment) Act, both enacted by the Parliament of the United Kingdom before Irish independence, and having been repealed in England and Wales in 1967, Scotland in 1980 and Northern Ireland in 1982.

2018-03-28 21:30:07 UTC  

In 1983, David Norris took a case to the Supreme Court seeking to challenge the constitutionality of these laws but was unsuccessful. In its Norris v. Attorney General judgement (delivered by a 3–2 majority), the court referred to the "Christian and democratic nature of the Irish State" and argued that criminalisation served public health and the institution of marriage.

In 1988, Norris took a case to the European Court of Human Rights to argue that Irish law was incompatible with the European Convention on Human Rights. The court, in the case of Norris v. Ireland,[18] ruled that the criminalisation of male homosexuality in the Republic violated Article 8 of the Convention, which guarantees the right to privacy in personal affairs. The Oireachtas (Irish Parliament) decriminalised male homosexuality five years later, when the Minister for Justice, Maire Geoghegan-Quinn, in the 1992–1994 Fianna Fáil—Labour Coalition Government included decriminalisation with an equal age of consent (an equal age of consent was not required by the ECHR ruling) in a bill to deal with various sexual offences. None of the parties represented in the Oireachtas opposed decriminalisation. Coincidentally, the task of signing the bill decriminalising male homosexual acts fell to the then President of Ireland, Mary Robinson, an outspoken defender of gay rights who as a barrister and Senior Counsel had represented Norris in his Supreme Court and European Court of Human Rights case.

2018-03-28 21:30:13 UTC  

Don’t wall spam

2018-03-28 21:30:14 UTC  
2018-03-28 21:30:18 UTC  

Did they have jail time though?

2018-03-28 21:30:23 UTC  

I didn't wall spam.