Also not directly supporting them when convenient is a good idea

Turks in holland are more conservative then turks in turkey because we put them in ghettos and have politicians who openly discriminate them

And then complain about how they are more conservative

The thing to do is to actually support democratic middle eastern forces (I know crazy, those brown people know what democracy is) and help them.

I live in a neighborhood full of turks and north africans in the Hague

Ah you live in de schilderwijk?

Im anti intervention tho

yeah I was talking to the guy

no but close to there

I know you were

But support in what wau

economically, funding of democratic forces

Maybe modest financial support

or complete abstention

definitely what the US should do

then again they wouldn’t be an empire though

When has intervention ever had a positive effect

they would never do it

there are examples, but most intervention is imperialism

@yung not just radical islam but at it's.entirely, we should treat it same as Christian faith during the 60 and thr 70s

i’m unaware christians were treated so antagonistically

@Valkyrie---1944 you are aware that islam was the first real civilisation? Gay and women rights, science etc

Islamic persia

Also the US problem with the islam in its own country is a non existent one

Most muslims in the US are very secular and highly educated

You had 1 terrorist attack 16 years ago

Immigration of africans or middle easterns to the US is not a thing

go check how many terrorist attacks the US committed in the Middle East in the same time

lmao

@supermodel ruben what made you think I'm American

you were talking about poverty levels in the US being caused by immigration

Ah yes

Are you not?

Then I apologize

And I know terrorism is exaggerate

I'm from Ireland

Just interested in politics

for instance not to offend you

Ahh

the biggest plot of a terrorist attack in scale was plotted by the irish

Your remark about poverty in the US made me think it