the wignat mentality is not only an exterior, it's a certain kind of philosophy that lacks respectability right?

and got away with it for the most part.

Not really. Everyone who talks about optics is literally hiding something behind a nice exterior. Its not about changing their core beliefs or end goal to be more palatable. its about dressing up for the public

Looks aren’t everything, but they aren’t nothing either. We live in the television era, everything’s recorded and filmed for all to see. We can’t afford looking bad

@Zemo They control the framing not you.

Here is a good video on this subject as a refresher. @NeoFuturist

https://youtu.be/dK8Qxo55fpI

thx

Don’t feed them the ammunition they need to smear you is what we’re saying

Then you can't engage with them. If you engage, they WILL smear you.

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Just repeating some basic beliefs will give them ammunition.

No ones ever denied the smear will happen, but making sure you don’t look or say anything suspect will give you a better chance of the smear backfiring

They control the framing. It doesn't matter if you look amazing, they can still lie about you or not even show you.

Or not registering

"Im against gay marriage"
---- In a homophobic speech X said that he was against fundamental human rights

When you control what everyone sees, they only see what you want them to

"Kill all faggots"
--- In a homophobic speech X said that he was against fundamental human rights, except it validates their narrative

The result is the same

Its a distinction without much of a difference

yes but one is going to legitimize them more than the other

its going to make it harder to rally around that person

They already have the legitimacy

you arnt taking if from them

They have the frame not the legitimacy

this is the status quo

Those who have the frame have the legitimacy

@Zemo not much of a difference in practicality

That may be true, but it’s not as if they’re aren’t measures we can take to maximize our own legitimacy

minimizing theirs will be more effective

Maximizing yours while they still have theirs is impossible anyways

We would need a media apparatus comparable to theirs in order to accomplish that

In a situation like this legitimacy is a zero sum game

in other words, you have to weaken them and take over or replace some of their power in order to gain some form of legitimacy or the ability to somewhat frame things for yourself in a meaningful way.

Before that you are pond scum

people still see things though.
we can't control the enemy, but we can at least make ourselves less fringe to those who are swayable. optics could be part of respectability

people will judge you on what you wear on your sleeve

@NeoFuturist totally agreed in that point, dress up a bit. But it's not that by dressing up they will treat you with kid gloves.

yeah sure, i agree

both optics and respectability are important, we shouldn't downplay either

I agree as well