Message from @PugSlugger

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2018-12-26 17:47:02 UTC  

Need I go into more detail?

2018-12-26 17:47:12 UTC  

"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.
We Communists have been reproached with the desire of abolishing the right of personally acquiring property as the fruit of a man’s own labour, which property is alleged to be the groundwork of all personal freedom, activity and independence.
Hard-won, self-acquired, self-earned property! Do you mean the property of petty artisan and of the small peasant, a form of property that preceded the bourgeois form? There is no need to abolish that; the development of industry has to a great extent already destroyed it, and is still destroying it daily.
Or do you mean the modern bourgeois private property?"

2018-12-26 17:47:14 UTC  

So if the working class can buy it then its not private property?

2018-12-26 17:47:29 UTC  

"The working class can buy diamonds"

2018-12-26 17:47:40 UTC  

So that means its not private?

2018-12-26 17:47:58 UTC  

Have you heard of privatisation?

2018-12-26 17:48:06 UTC  

You can't exactly privatise a diamond

2018-12-26 17:48:17 UTC  

You can privatise a diamond mine, however

2018-12-26 17:49:05 UTC  

Privatization is when something is owned privately

2018-12-26 17:49:10 UTC  

Aka not by the government

2018-12-26 17:49:19 UTC  

And the abolition of this state of things is called by the bourgeois, abolition of individuality and freedom!

2018-12-26 17:49:35 UTC  

And rightly so.

2018-12-26 17:49:41 UTC  

Its very cringy when you copy and paste

2018-12-26 17:50:14 UTC  

>I hate it when you quote Marx and prove me wrong!

2018-12-26 17:50:27 UTC  

Ok so here is the problem with whining about factories being some kind of special thing that marx says you cant own

2018-12-26 17:50:32 UTC  

Check this out

2018-12-26 17:50:47 UTC  

Can you make money by using your hands?

2018-12-26 17:50:52 UTC  

Like farming?

2018-12-26 17:50:57 UTC  

Or metalworking?

2018-12-26 17:50:57 UTC  

You have to sell your labour power

2018-12-26 17:51:00 UTC  

Or art?

2018-12-26 17:51:02 UTC  

Nah

2018-12-26 17:51:09 UTC  

You can sell stuff you make

2018-12-26 17:51:16 UTC  

It wont be very profitable

2018-12-26 17:51:20 UTC  

You put your labour value into that creation

2018-12-26 17:51:24 UTC  

But you could buy food

2018-12-26 17:51:31 UTC  

Then sell that creation to the public

2018-12-26 17:51:41 UTC  

Hence selling your labour power instead to society as a whole

2018-12-26 17:51:55 UTC  

Whatever made up terms you wanna say whatever but you could do that right?

2018-12-26 17:51:59 UTC  

Instead of one individual

2018-12-26 17:52:15 UTC  

Nigger

2018-12-26 17:52:19 UTC  

Try listening

2018-12-26 17:52:43 UTC  

Sell your labour power to the working class and bourgeoisie instead? Yes, but it won't be as profitable as selling it to the bourgeoisie themselves.

2018-12-26 17:52:57 UTC  

Thats not what im getting at ben shapiro

2018-12-26 17:53:00 UTC  

Fucking relax

2018-12-26 17:53:10 UTC  

You aren't listening

2018-12-26 17:53:15 UTC  

😩

2018-12-26 17:53:18 UTC  

Absolutely flawed argument

2018-12-26 17:53:30 UTC  

I havent even made an argument nigger

2018-12-26 17:53:36 UTC  

Im setting up a question

2018-12-26 17:53:44 UTC  

Ask already then