Message from @Alfred NC

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2017-11-02 00:48:51 UTC  

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/10/31/hard-right/

This is a pretty good article. I definitely don't think that conservatism is the way forward, but I think it's a bit off the mark to say that getting our guys into local govt positions (which can only really be done through the GOP or independantly) is something that shouldn't be tried. NJF, haven't listened to Allsup too much so not sure on him, very much is aligned with us when it comes to the JQ, and can quote Mosley off the cuff without batting an eye about the fact that he's bringing to light the words of a Fascist. I don't think their strategy is one that's wrong or ineffective, which is only the case if it were tried without a seperate force moving around the State to accumulate power and influence.

An armed revolution is really a very unlikely thing we'll come out of on top, no matter how many guerllia warfare manuals you read or how well your flecktarn helps you blend into the forest. The State as we know it is circling the big civilizational drain as people lose faith in the overarching societal norms and cohesion falls apart. These Americans stripped of their identity need to be given something else, presented with an alternative to decay.

Also, if the State completely collapses tomorrow, or simply ceases to exist, my identity does not change. My history, heritage, ethnic makeup, and lineage does not change. The government collapsing will not erase how my fathers fought for their people on this continent for centuries. We will still be Americans, and our people will still be worth fighting for. I am not so different from someone in New Jersey that we need different States, and different societies. Nor am I from someone from Florida, or Utah. Our people span the continent, and they're Americans plain and simple.

2017-11-02 00:52:46 UTC  

Now I don't agree with using swasis, or runes, or sonnenrads or symbols that are not based in the history of our people. I can't conceive a movement winning by means of replacing a people's identity with an ideology. Fascism *must* rise *out* of a people, and all that they are, history/heritage/culture, it can never rise up *in spite of those things*.

2017-11-02 00:57:04 UTC  

And he talks about the "take back America" platform as a bad thing. But he uses this phrase alongside MAGA to describe people who want to take back *the government*. You can say that the LoS and Wallace himself want to only take back the South and leave the rest to its fate, but WN's and NatSoc's and Identitarians... if they aren't trying to take back America, what are they doing? ***America is not a government.*** __***America is a nation, which is a people and a land which they have a shared history within.***__

2017-11-02 00:58:25 UTC  

This is the ideology that will lead us to ultimate victory.

2017-11-02 01:00:00 UTC  

Met Wallace in Gainsville, very nice dude. Nothing against him at all, but I do think a lot of this debate is based around people not understanding the standpoints of others. We won't win without a 5th column in the govt, and we won't win without having activists and the like mobile in the streets. WN 1.0 failed because they were all bound at the hip in this way, that they didn't understand that competing strategies are not opposing strategies, and thus they acted like crabs in a bucket.

2017-11-02 01:00:19 UTC  

Okay, I think that's my two cents, which is closing in on a dollar by now.

2017-11-02 01:04:50 UTC  

What was WN 1.0?

2017-11-02 01:04:53 UTC  

We must attack on multiple fronts, we do not have the power to force ourselves and our view down one avenue. We have to be able to push our ideology in several different mediums, meaning online and meatspace, instantaneously.

2017-11-02 01:05:24 UTC  

Wn 1.0 was skinheads and kkk.

2017-11-02 01:06:02 UTC  

Ahhh...

2017-11-02 01:08:28 UTC  

And I don't want to say Wallace is making this argument, because he isn't. But the people saying that the American flag (and the American Identity) is a symbol beyond redemption are the same ones that wear SS bolts on their collars and occaisionally use swastikas. Now if it's about public opinion, that'd be a contradiction, but if it's about the true meaning of the symbol and a group's connection to them, then that's another thing.

2017-11-02 01:27:26 UTC  

American Nationalism is only an effective strategy if its a vehicle for a real Blood and Soil Nationalism. Like I've asked multiple times and multiple people. What other Nationalist movement has ever advocated destroying their own nation?

2017-11-02 01:51:10 UTC  

I feel like a faggot but I just reported a SFC in the Army to his CoC for calling for the assassination of Trump on Facebook because he's antifa

2017-11-02 01:53:08 UTC  

They do that shit to us all the time. Fuck that commie.

2017-11-02 01:54:57 UTC  

That's what I figured, a good friend of mine is getting chaptered out of Bragg now because he used to be in NYF and got doxxed

2017-11-02 01:56:48 UTC  
2017-11-02 01:57:15 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363104510153064452/375463338936762369/20171029_000548_HDR.jpg

2017-11-02 01:59:31 UTC  

@Alfred NC He would have hung you from a yardarm if the roles were reversed.

2017-11-02 01:59:38 UTC  

Fuck him.

2017-11-02 02:00:26 UTC  

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2017-11-02 02:03:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363104510153064452/375464912626909196/Screenshot_20171101-220308.png

2017-11-02 02:09:14 UTC  

I wasn't a fan of either president when I was in, but I had sense enough not to call for their assassination on social media. He deserves to get court martialed. You know damn well you're not allowed to do that shit.

2017-11-02 02:10:13 UTC  

Honestly I said dumb shit on social media but I didn't clearly post my identity and post things that made it take two seconds to find my unit.

2017-11-02 02:11:01 UTC  

Fuck him. Think of him as a coal burner.

2017-11-02 02:11:16 UTC  

Pay that toll.

2017-11-02 02:14:15 UTC  

Our XO was a douchebag Harvard graduate (((lawyer))) who sent us an email about how we were to never question Obama once he took office. I gaffed him off and replied I would gladly follow any lawful orders given.

2017-11-02 02:14:51 UTC  

Of course I EAS'd about a week after so...

2017-11-02 02:16:18 UTC  

Fuck the liberal influence in the military, I guess this is the first step of a purge.

2017-11-02 02:29:13 UTC  

The only good communist is an unemployed communist.

2017-11-02 02:35:36 UTC  

I've never met one who was employed to tell the truth.

2017-11-02 02:36:27 UTC  

I have unfortunately

2017-11-02 02:39:33 UTC  

Hell Seattle's City Council deserves a 🚁 ride

2017-11-02 02:43:03 UTC  

Interesting

2017-11-02 03:20:10 UTC  

@NDO Eric - TX lol very nice

2017-11-02 03:57:45 UTC  

Gentleman, I highly reccomend reading Plato's Republic. In book V he argues for eugenics, and a superior "Guardian Class" of people to lord over the rest. I never realized that Plato was a Fascist. I am making reading his Republic my next goal after finishing Mein Kampf.

2017-11-02 04:08:48 UTC  

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2017-11-02 04:15:45 UTC  

I picked a copy up at a thrift store and have been meaning to read it.

2017-11-02 04:35:48 UTC  

I belive he also said a Democracy is the 2nd worst form of government he'd want to live in.

2017-11-02 05:06:05 UTC  

Platos problem for me anyways after reading the republic was his belief the state was still to him just a faceless economic zone like the jews do. The state was just existing to protect that shopping mall. He believed people and culture were divisible which is why he thinks up something like myth of the metals. The state can and should be so much more. In general im not a fan of the greeks as i think they biased western philosophy till this day. I think they were of course making vauble contributions certainly socratic methods are extremely vauble. Anyways long thing short Plato was not a patriot of any state and just wanted a shopping mall

2017-11-02 05:41:34 UTC  

Yeah, I have got to pick through it. I dont believe in everyone of the "guardian class" sharing their women freely lol. So theres definitely some things that are discardable in there, but overall, I think it is a pretty good work to study.