Message from @Thomas Ryan

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2018-02-25 16:42:40 UTC  

The American flag has been around much longer than ZOGworld

2018-02-25 16:43:02 UTC  

>flys the Betsy Ross along side the stars and stripes

2018-02-25 16:43:07 UTC  

I hate internet people

2018-02-25 16:44:27 UTC  

Betsy ross is better though, it implies an America during the era where whites were supreme

2018-02-25 16:45:39 UTC  

Empires really have little to no solid classification. When your nation, which is a unified people, which America was and to some degree continues to be, is a superpower, it gets involved with other countries and other peoples. It happened to Britain, it happened to France, it happened to use. Global primacy on the political plane has its downsides, but it also has its benefits.

America was never meant to be a nation of many. It was meant to be the leading power in the world of those who would not stand for tyranny. The fact is, that everything we are facing is nothing short of tyranny, and we've got the nationalistic, militaristic roots to prove it. Patriotism is nationalism by another name. That's always been the case.

2018-02-25 16:47:57 UTC  

Also, the standard American nation is not unified enough to warrant a flag, yet the Confederacy, a system far more decentralized, and with far less time to exercise political autonomy, does? The striped flag used to represent our "Empire of Liberty" for centuries until our democracy was usurped has less impact than the battle flag of a (for better or worse) short lived secessionist power?

2018-02-25 16:48:03 UTC  

**Give me a break.**

2018-02-25 16:53:33 UTC  

`The fifty star flag is a zog rag`

Yeah. Sure. Whatever. I don't like the government. I disagree with its most basic of functioning at this point. That "rag" is also the symbol that represents the nation, like it or not. That "rag" is what every man who fought in some useless war saluted. That "rag" is what waved over countless gatherings of our people who would sure as hell sooner stand by me than our current leaders.

For people that hate the government, they sure believe most of what it says.

*"We're a nation of immigrants."*
"Look! They said it! All is lost! America doesn't real! It never did!"

*"Anyone can be American."*
"How true! I am now only identified by my edgy political arguments! We have no history!"

2018-02-25 16:57:39 UTC  

I don't think he understands that when why we use the flag...

2018-02-25 16:58:14 UTC  

When we fly it and we're a presentable group of white men (unlike some groups) and were slandered it pull normal people to our side.

2018-02-25 16:58:46 UTC  

Remember this is all too big-brained for the normie, in their eyes

Us flag = good
Anti-US flag = bad

2018-02-25 16:59:12 UTC  

It's that simple

2018-02-25 16:59:23 UTC  

That flag is the certificate to my birthright.

That flag is my claim to this land and future.

That flag is the one thing, of many, that I won't let them take from us without a fight.

2018-02-25 16:59:56 UTC  

^

2018-02-25 17:00:10 UTC  

By the way, when are we getting PF flags? I want one real bad

2018-02-25 17:00:34 UTC  

Soon. Supposed to have some in the mail by this week.

2018-02-25 17:00:46 UTC  

Even as a first gen American it's still a symbol for freedom and for a unique group of people that tamed a wild land, we are Americans.

2018-02-25 17:00:59 UTC  

Also the boers are kinda cool too

2018-02-25 17:01:30 UTC  

You're an Amerikaner

2018-02-25 17:04:34 UTC  

@Victor MD I dislike that term because it's based in a language literally no one here speaks.

2018-02-25 17:04:45 UTC  

This guy gets it ^

2018-02-25 17:04:54 UTC  

`Patriot Front's Austin action is textbook in my opinion:`

2018-02-25 17:05:11 UTC  

`The speaker and the people closest to him are top-tier. The others? I don't know but it doesn't matter if they're antifa-caliber in terms of physique and appearance. They're another torchlight adding to the overall magnitude and intensity.

The "punch-a-nazi" party crash that @Azzmador led was also an exemplary daytime action. Well-planned, well-executed, with high-quality guys working extremely well together.`

2018-02-25 17:10:44 UTC  

@Thomas Ryan go to Pennsylvania Dutch country... It's not to far from vic

2018-02-25 17:14:17 UTC  

There's plenty of towns with the old Kaiser flag hanging outside, really cool stuff.

2018-02-25 17:16:41 UTC  

More people speak exclusively sign language in America than Dutch.

2018-02-25 17:20:00 UTC  

I just like the term because it captures in a single word the idea that we are a distinct identity and not "muh nation of immigrants"

2018-02-25 17:20:39 UTC  

Why buy the slogans of the political establishment at all?

2018-02-25 17:21:00 UTC  

Why would you cede your core identity because politicians and bankers asked you to?

2018-02-25 17:22:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/417225495365681152/417370803491962880/what.PNG

2018-02-25 17:22:39 UTC  

This is so dumb.

2018-02-25 17:23:04 UTC  

This is **so** dumb.

2018-02-25 17:23:57 UTC  

I'm not "propped up" by people. I have those I work with. We're all important to the functioning of the organization, and I, personally, like to think I'm not some grand hindrance to be dragged across the field on the way forward.

2018-02-25 17:26:40 UTC  

Now, because things need to be said at times, I think he may be talking about some folks in New England, which we had some less-than-cordial dealings with, most of which by proxy and involved me only as an after-the-fact onlooker.

Here's how it goes:
- Leader of local guys want to work together
- Sure, more people working is good
- Guys come over to work with PF
- Leader of local group is upset because PF is doing well
- Cuts all ties and kicks out folks
- Some folks stay with PF because of our activism
- The end

2018-02-25 17:27:36 UTC  

What people did I *isolate* in VA? How can I co-opt members? Did I forget that everyone here is here willingly? **Get a grip, man.**

2018-02-25 17:28:43 UTC  

He's a TWPfag who wants to reform their optics so his members don't join better groups who are already good looking

2018-02-25 17:28:48 UTC  

Now, people are justified for saying these things because I don't really go out of my way to correct the record, and no one in any of this ever actually asked for my side of the story. Things get obscured when that happens.

2018-02-25 17:39:27 UTC  

@Thomas Ryan American Dutch country is German fam...

2018-02-25 17:39:34 UTC  

It's in Pennsylvania

2018-02-25 17:39:40 UTC  

Heavily german