Message from Donald OH in Front And Center #general
I agree with the thoughts explained in the article. White Nationalism, as a school of thought and a label similar to what the article describes, has been mostly made useless. Not sure to what degree tactics fit into ideology, but there is a significant correlation.
I still, and will continue to think, that the American habit to bypass their **national** identity, and instead focus solely on their **racial** identity, the two of which are vastly different, is a mistake that other nations have not made, and could be undeniably a reason for America's lack of substantive nationalist movements.
In Europe however there are followers of Guiome Faye who do belive in the ideology as it is.
It really boils down to whether or not you are a revolutionary in my opinion.
If White identitarianism was pro-segregation and right of Association (allow discrimination) then I could see it being something that could be helpful
I could see it as a stepping stone to an ethnostate
I’d consider nationalism to the right of Identitarianism. I started off as a liberal, then libertarian, then conservative, then paleocon , then Identitarian, and I’m at Nationalist right now.
I'm not sure if that specifically is what the article is pointing out. Both the 1.0 spheres and the Identitarian crowd ignore national identity in place of a more broad reaching conception of racial identity, at least in America. They would be vastly better suited to focus on their own people, their own nation, and let other nations do the same.
Identitarianism is a movement which is open about its goals to simply influence the thought of the race as a whole. However unlikely or difficult, it's nothing that's wrong to do. It's not something so easily placed on a left/right spectrum.
PF imo has the best position: identity of racecand nation.
Whether a movement is revolutionary or not ultimately comes down to tactics. Any significant divergence from the status quo could reasonably be called revolutionary. It's whether or not you plan to get there.
People don't realize that the state used force and policy to diversify this country and it can use the same state and policy to undiversify it. Obviously there will be people who resist and there will be violence. But there was violence during desegregation as well.
@Josh OH We don't talk about other nations. Other nations don't fit into our platform. My nation comes first in all things. I care about other nations that share my race more than I do ones that do not, but I am not fighting for them. I am not fighting for Germans, or Italians, or Swedes, or Boers, or Australians. I'm fighting for Americans, for my nation. I expect them to do the same.
Where can I get one of these flags?
Today is. Tough day
Yeah I think it's hard for Americans to get behind a movement that extends beyond their Nation and requires them to Forfeit their American identity
We can’t forget our heritage though
Next building I enter
They have lots of 🇺🇸
Only flag we need
I have plenty of American flags. I was referring to the custom one. It’s bad ass
It strikes fear into our enemy
I know 😁
@Donald OH I am descendant from Europeans. I am not a European. If all Americans were transplanted into various European "ethnostates", then after several generations of assimilation, the nation would cease to be. I do not want that.
Our nation was brought into existence because we would not be ruled by a foreign nation. It was a matter of our identity, heritage, and way of life being so different from that of Europeans that we could not exist under the same government as them.
As for the flag. It was a custom, one-off order by a member. It will not be used in future demonstrations.
I’m aware that we are American. Our American identity means the world to me. I’m just saying heritage is also important.
True, but there is plenty of American heritage tbh
We're not tapping into that enough
I know. We’ve been here for an long time. Our blood is in this soil.
This is our birthright.
Reds are the absolute worst