Message from @CatLoverKid

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2019-09-22 20:53:02 UTC  

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2019-09-22 20:53:08 UTC  

Idk if you saw it before, but I'm over 100k in debt

2019-09-22 20:53:13 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/554191468747816962/625434452100775949/FB_IMG_1569107207071.jpg

2019-09-22 20:53:19 UTC  

and I'm really enjoying that decision right now

2019-09-22 20:53:25 UTC  

because tomorrow I start a job that will pay it off

2019-09-22 20:53:47 UTC  

@CatLoverKid you shouldn't have had to have gone into that kind of debt just to get a good paying job

2019-09-22 20:53:50 UTC  

That's absurd

2019-09-22 20:54:13 UTC  

what why? I'm not entitled to a job. Nobody is entitled to give me one lol

2019-09-22 20:54:46 UTC  

I also didn't NEED to work where I do now. I could have shot lower

2019-09-22 20:54:51 UTC  

Lmfao "Pretty good system"

While dozens of veterans are homeless in the streets.
While dozens of people can't afford food without relying on the state.
While dozens of people are choosing to die, rather than putting their families in debt to get life saving medication.
While people studying to be nurses and doctors can't afford to do anything because they are carrying tremendous debt.
While people suffering from mental disorders are treated like animals.

"Good system"

2019-09-22 20:54:52 UTC  

No, perhaps not, but you're entitled to fair working conditions and the ability to live comfortably without the looming threat of being in debt for the rest of your life potentially

2019-09-22 20:54:53 UTC  

but I WANT the money, so I took risk

2019-09-22 20:55:36 UTC  

I disagree that you:
1) need to go into debt to dodge those things
2) should be impervious from risk in order to pursue wealth

2019-09-22 20:56:08 UTC  

@Foxhound this is why I consider you my friend, because even though we are clearly on opposite sides of the political spectrum, it's amazing how much we agree on and I just genuinely enjoy both talking to you and the irony of a "commie" being friends with a fascist xD

2019-09-22 20:56:21 UTC  

You shouldn't need to go into debt to pay for schooling in life saving fields.

2019-09-22 20:56:31 UTC  

Idk you, but if i get cancer, i really dont want to sell my house to pay for the treatment

2019-09-22 20:56:52 UTC  

Sorry but my aunt who is now 47 is still paying student debt while she actively saves lives and is threatened with losing her house.

2019-09-22 20:56:58 UTC  

now THAT'S an interesting thought... I think I'm gonna need to think about the debt for life-saving fields thing

2019-09-22 20:57:04 UTC  

Sir Moseley would be proud.

2019-09-22 20:57:17 UTC  

@CatLoverKid you literally have a fascist and a... I guess I'm a libertarian socialist???... agreeing with each other and telling you the same shit. You've achieved a feat of incredible height. Perhaps you should think about that

2019-09-22 20:57:48 UTC  

I also think I've come a LONG way in my success in life through this system, entirely on my own effort

2019-09-22 20:57:51 UTC  

Risk = potential reward. That's a common theme in universal society.

2019-09-22 20:58:05 UTC  

no risk and no reward?

2019-09-22 20:58:22 UTC  

@AKAlexei and an american republicanist

2019-09-22 20:59:18 UTC  

Which is admirable. But look at how much it's cost you. What if you lose that job? What if you're laid off or fired? What if it turns out to be a total shitshow profession that makes you wanna off yourself every time you open your eyes in the morning and trust me that last one doesn't sound like much but it WILL take its toll over time

2019-09-22 20:59:35 UTC  

If that job of yours suddenly disappears, then what?

2019-09-22 20:59:40 UTC  

You could be in deep shit

2019-09-22 21:00:03 UTC  

Scenario; you lose your job, your income, you can't pay your student debt, and then you start losing everything

2019-09-22 21:00:07 UTC  

if I lose this job or it's not as good as I hoped, then I pivot and look elsewhere. If I have medical issues then that's just my lot in life

2019-09-22 21:00:09 UTC  

Happens constantly in the US

2019-09-22 21:00:22 UTC  

I can also start my own company

2019-09-22 21:00:30 UTC  

@CatLoverKid to say what you just said about medical issues says a lot about your medical history

2019-09-22 21:00:32 UTC  

And what of the people that fail because this system has forced them into corners? What of them? What of the 22 year old medical student that ate a bullet because he couldn't afford the loans and saw no hope? What about the people forgotten by the system? What about the veterans abandoned by the system? What about the thousands of homeless people with no hope? What of them?

And when the planet finally collapses under our feet because we have raped Gaia into oblivion? Perhaps your beloved "System" will save you then.

2019-09-22 21:00:56 UTC  

@CatLoverKid not a guarantee you'll succeed

2019-09-22 21:01:11 UTC  

not helping veterans is a failure by the state I agree that we need to do more to help them

2019-09-22 21:01:42 UTC  

What about the 22 y/o who has literally lost 95% of his personal possessions and now has to join the Marines in order to ever have a chance at a future beyond working a minimum wage job because no one will hire him he could only ever dream of possessing enough capital to start a business on his own?

2019-09-22 21:02:27 UTC  

There's lots of other routes they could have taken than the marines, but it's a perfectly fine route to take

2019-09-22 21:03:09 UTC  

Yeah not really, those routes were closed to me the day we were slapped with a tax bill the size of Ron Jeremy's dick and were struggling to even buy food

2019-09-22 21:03:38 UTC  

And who was responsible for that? Oh that's right, the current administration that is helping to continue the current system

2019-09-22 21:03:38 UTC  

you didn't want to go to trade school? or community college?

2019-09-22 21:03:44 UTC  

or any other route to acquiring a trade?