To be fair, pr had a lot to do about the retreat from Vietnam

Fucking amazing achievement

But you still lost the war

That's the point

Lmao, it’s what happens when u are fighting insurgents

you would win many engagements with china

But you can not invade and control

You would have to retreat again

Only because of politics in context with Vietnam & Korea.

It's too big and populous and advanced

Yeah fuck control, invade and eliminate

We lost because we didn’t want to spark another war with China

If we did that in nam would have been a dub

China would continue the attack.

Which would mean political will is irrelevant

smh

So we were just trying to keep the north from taking the south

And they took the south anyway

any way you look at it, the US lost the war

You can’t win a war with no hope of advancement

No due to military prowess mind you

You still lost the war

Not "any way you look at it"

Yeah ^

You think none of these factors would be relevant in a war against china?

Militarily it was a victory.

No it wasn't

@PureEvilPie well at least we never lost to France 😎

Yes it was

Politically it was a lost

Militarily

You went there

lost your objective

And won every engagement

THATS

NOT

HOW YOU WIN WARS

fucking hell

I’m tired of hearing dudes bitch about a war they probably know little about

Remember the Tet Offensive?

You went there to stop communist backed north from controlling vietnam