Message from @Zoltanous
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But not a state one
Exactly. Just because somethinf is written in law doesn't mean people agree with it. Honour was and is something which an individual believes in and does regardless of laws. If the state collapsed tomorrow, a moral and honourable person would continue to not kill and steal whereas many might resort to that as no one is stopping them.
How many people in the modern day are really morally opposed to stealing? What if they needed the food?
Are you actually tryna tell me that before modern times no one ever looked out for number one first and foremost? History clearly shows otherwise
Also again: I’m not opposed to the concept of honor or whatever at an individual level
Just a state one
Not everyone in ancient times was honourable, but honour was a concept which more people held because it was culturally embedded. I hear what you're saying, but thay leaves no guarantee people will actually embrace the concept.
No matter how hard you instill it into people: if the only foods is on another’s pouch people will eventually resort to stealing it. That’s just how it works when the only choice is between you or someone else going hungry.
Mean it’s certainly a noble concept and I think it’s admirable that you put so much thought onto people acting moral but I personally think the state should be more concerned with the welfare of its people rather than some abstract concept that’ll only come into play if the state crumbles
I’d much rather make people act morally by letting them live good lives than drilling the concept into their heads
May be somewhat idealist but yea
Culture is top down, not ground up. The institutions governing and pervading society are what determine culture and such.
@Gromp You make the mistake of assuming you cannot combine social tradition with technological innovation
Not saying that, my main problem with them are the other reasons I outlined above they just seem to hinder technological progress from what I’ve seen @Maksim
Can link more if ya want
@The Desert Fox V too much capitalism
Not enough nationalism
@Maksim just enough nationalism
88%
Also, economics I don't care much about.
Actually gay
Get off my board
What was the point of taking the tests if you were just going to take a shit on the floor
too much on the market axis
and not enough nationalism
but getting there
that's because 8 values is dumb
