Message from @☭ ⊕ Korovsky ⊕ ☭
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which is what i did with Aquinas
your critiques show everyone that u have not actually understood what u have read
okay well run through with me, what were your critiques?
ok ill go over this for the thousandth time
lets start with the firsts one
now i like to have a dialogue, not a monologue
im gonna need a drink for this thirst cause
so please recite the first way
bruh
okay so number one of the first way, our senses prove that some things are in motion
number two, things move when potential motion becomes actual motion,
any objections so far?
nope
addie has essentially conceded before that the argument is logical but he thinks that it doesnt prove god somehow
which show a lack of understanding
number three, only an actual motion can convert a potential motion into an actual motion.
number four, nothing can be at once in both actuality and potentiality in the same respect.
i.e: if both actual and potential, it is actual in one respect and potential in another.
good? any problems?
nope
number five, nothing can move itself
number six, each thing in motion is moved by something else
number seven, the sequence of motion cannot extend *ad infinitum*
not sure how you found that out, but lets keep going
final point of the first way
it is therefore necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other, and this everybody understand to be God
ahhhh there we have it
"and everybody understands this to be God"
okay so
i could replace god with anything
and it would still be valid
lmao no no on
cringe moment
not understanding the argument moment
okay but we have to deduce that there had to be a beginning point, having had no objections prior to point eight, right?
no objections. Well small ones, but im granting you a few things
okay, so the thing is that whatever you replace with God as the beginning point
this explains why that critique is cringe
has to logically exist outside of Time itself
since Time is also a factor that is in motion
@Spergerger not sure how he figured those things out
can you soundly demonstrate that at all?
but ok