Message from @Zoltanous

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2019-12-07 18:44:30 UTC  

@Gromp Imagine bashing historical revisionism and also denying Stalin's policies caused the Holodomor

2019-12-07 18:45:09 UTC  

πŸ€”

2019-12-07 18:45:42 UTC  

What the hell are you talkin about all the people who're apart of the original National Bolshevik movement still identified as communist and Marxist first-hand. It's simple read the f****** Manifesto, literally a worker council state. Sees internationalism as an end gaol in the futur. This is purely on the German manifestation not they Social Democrat Russian one that's not even socialist.

2019-12-07 18:46:56 UTC  

Imagine calling yourself a National Bolshevik when you are just a Marxist who believes in race

2019-12-07 18:47:22 UTC  

Its so sad and pathetic seeing people who actually believe in that trash

2019-12-07 18:48:02 UTC  

Stalin somewhat believed in race so I suppose he is a National Bolshevik

2019-12-07 18:48:23 UTC  

Next to that National Bolshevik racial views aren't that much different than Marx in terms of race relations. The guy was more racist and a real practical terms than Hitler. Modern communism Implemented intersectionality which is why it has humanism inside of it unlike original Marxism. Marx rejected humanism as a type of idealism, next to that the guy hated degenerate because he saw them as a product of the capitalist system ie lumpin proletariat which most communist fall into ironically.

2019-12-07 18:49:18 UTC  

Original Marxism didn't incorporate humanism?

2019-12-07 18:49:20 UTC  

ex dee

2019-12-07 18:49:29 UTC  

Im doing a thunk rn

2019-12-07 18:51:36 UTC  

I care not anyway

2019-12-07 18:51:44 UTC  

My disagreements with Marx like Strasser are more flushed in terms of overall philosophy, ontology, and economics anyways

2019-12-07 18:52:12 UTC  

I dont even really care about this anyway there isnt a point in arguing

2019-12-07 18:52:21 UTC  

All reds deserve zero tolerance and shouldn't be allowed to operate on a platform.

2019-12-07 18:52:33 UTC  

the way I see it Marxists and "National Bolsheviks" alike deserve the same end

2019-12-07 18:52:46 UTC  

the way I see it Marxists and "National Bolsheviks" alike deserve the same end

2019-12-07 18:52:50 UTC  

discord is dying rn

2019-12-07 18:52:51 UTC  

I'll go even further if you're a fascist and you disagree with Hitler you also don't deserve a platform

2019-12-07 18:53:03 UTC  

discord is dying rn

2019-12-07 18:53:23 UTC  

What are you then?

2019-12-07 18:53:47 UTC  

I identify with national socialism more than anything

2019-12-07 18:53:59 UTC  

*Shakes hand*

2019-12-07 23:37:59 UTC  

What do y'all think of fourth positionism?

2019-12-07 23:38:25 UTC  

What’s that?

2019-12-07 23:42:44 UTC  

It's a political theory proposed by Aleksandr Dugin in collaboration with Alain De Benoist which aims to put forward an anti-liberal ideology that goes beyond liberalism, socialism, and fascism (the first, second, and third positions)

2019-12-07 23:42:58 UTC  

A political theory adapted for our post-liberal age

2019-12-07 23:43:12 UTC  

To boil it down to the absolute Kellogg's bare basics it is a communitarian ideology in both the economic and social sense, though of course it's much, much more than that

2019-12-07 23:51:55 UTC  

Got a link to book bout it?

2019-12-07 23:54:23 UTC  

They have a website full of articles and related books, just type in 4pt

2019-12-07 23:54:41 UTC  

I'd recommend starting with their first two articles in the manifesto section

2019-12-07 23:54:45 UTC  

Aight thanks

2019-12-08 00:02:37 UTC  

No problem

2019-12-08 03:05:37 UTC  

I guess it depends on what this fourth position becomes

2019-12-08 03:06:08 UTC  

If it is true to universal truth and natural law it will not be much different to Fascism though

2019-12-08 03:06:51 UTC  

But if its like Evola's idea of being "Super-Fascist" it could work

2019-12-08 05:44:21 UTC  

@Zoltanous What is with all of the supposed β€œfascists” who think Hitler was retarded? It makes me sick. Literally every other fascist country was Hitler’s bitch.

2019-12-08 05:51:52 UTC  

lol

2019-12-08 05:52:26 UTC  

I assume i passed the checkpoint

2019-12-08 06:03:57 UTC  

Hitler was just a junkie fag tbh

2019-12-08 06:10:09 UTC  

@Dyno retard

2019-12-08 06:11:11 UTC  

@Asdrubal okay retard